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Old 08-19-2004, 23:50   #1 (permalink)
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when a gt is not a gt

after reading another thread about rebodies, when does a chassis stop being a gt chassis?
rust and shonky repairs over the years are beginning to take their toll on complete chassis assemblies. is it ok to replace a turret? what about the chassis rails particularly on xa/b's with their tramp rod pickup points, how about replacing the shock towers that have the numbers.
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Re: when a gt is not a gt

I have no idea what the legal position is, but chassis rails are a good point. To me a 73 XA chassis with numbers that say it should be a 72 is no longer a geniune GT.
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I think the compliance plate determines what the car is.
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I agree with Yellow Fire. IMO it wouldn't be original, if you had say a cut and shut on say a genuine GT been involved in a accident that wrote off the front of the car (touch wood).

It would be unfortunate, but I cannot see how the vehicle should been allowed to be called original after the cut and shut job, even if you found another GT to destroy to do the job.

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I think the compliance plate determines what the car is.
No offense, but I think your missing the point.

The points being made are in relation to the physical chassis / body not a plate that can be simply drilled out and pop-rivited to another vehicle.
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Re: when a gt is not a gt

Right when the compliance plates aren't still attached to the chassis they came with from Ford.

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It wouldn't be the first time
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Re: when a gt is not a gt

would it be fair to say that it is still guenuine if the front end is still complete, even though the turret and rear quarters have been replaced from a donor.
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Re: when a gt is not a gt

I'd just class that as rust repair. It must be the same chassis as from factory to still be the same car.
There was a genuine XY GT in australianmusclecars.com.au that was sold, that had been written off in the first year (71 I think) then rebodied with another genuine body from Ford and the numbers were stamped same as the write off on the new car.

Do people class this as an exception because it was an unstamped new replacement body?
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I would gather Ford would have supplied a GT shell even if it was unstamped. So yes it would still be a GT. Ford to this very day supply body shells. I've seen quite a few on the back of trucks.

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would it be fair to say that it is still guenuine if the front end is still complete, even though the turret and rear quarters have been replaced from a donor.
I'd say that it would still be a genuine GT provided any repairs that might have been done on the chassis were carried out sympathetically, and that preservation was a factor considered during those repairs. And if I was REALLY anal, I'd want paperwork to prove that.

Trouble is, over the lifetime of a car, you could really replace or repair the whole damn lot apart from the little piece of metal that the plates are rivetted to. What then? Would it still be a genuine GT then? I'd say so.

You would buy it as a GT, it would be registered as a GT, and when/if you came to sell it, it would be sold as a GT and the buyer would be much like you and think of it as a GT, and so it goes on...
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