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Old 09-07-2004, 20:15   #1 (permalink)
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windsor clevo in XR?

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I am about to put a V8 into my xr falcon. People have been telling me to put a clevo in others are say windsor, some say stick with a 289 as origanal xr's came with. I just want bang for buck so a 351 was my original thought. Whats the difference btween a clevo and windsor? ant thoughts would be welcome.

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Old 09-07-2004, 20:41   #2 (permalink)
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Re: windsor clevo in XR?

A windsor is a mighty good truck engine or boat anchor, and a Clevo is a Powerhouse!
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Re: windsor clevo in XR?

windsor is narrower and weighs heaps less. 347 stroker with decent heads will cure any power problems.
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Re: windsor clevo in XR?

so i'm still confused and those last two posts havent helped. is it just down to preferance or is one better than the other for performance. please guys dont start a battle between the two.
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Re: windsor clevo in XR?

Windsor for:
a 289 can be registered with no engineering hassles
Fuel injection is easier to implement
more space in the engine bay

Cleveland for:
Probably easier to get a s/h cleveland in reasonable order
4 Barrel manifolds on XCs as standard
351s more plentiful than the windsor one and most parts are interchangeable between 302 / 351.

Since XWs and XYs ran both motors the hardware to fit them is interchangeable, It comes down to personal preference and the flavour of the beast you are building.
If I was going to build an XT ute from Scratch that I wanted to be economical and reliable Id look very closely at using a fuel injected windsor and box out of an XR8. I'd be looking at about $5k short term but I'd have an engine with a reasonable life before I had to rebuild it and a five speed.

As it happened I had a Cleveland and 5 speed lying around from my last ute so that formed the basis of a drivetrain. I reckon you could get a Clevo and single rail in good order for less than $1000 so you would have a workable setup for less upfront investment that is simple to work on with no electronics or fuel injection but you would miss out on the economy and "turn the key and it just goes" features of the injected engine.

If I wanted to go for the resto I would use an old windsor for originality. If you can find an old windsor in good nick it would cost you about the same as the clevo although it won't go as hard stock.

If you have big bucks to spend on an engine its a different ballgame again and you would do well to look at what you want to do with the vehicle ie drags or a streeter and make a decision after talking to people involved in those areas.

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Re: windsor clevo in XR?

Well the phase one was a Windsor, while the phase two & three were Clevelands

Personally I'd put a Windsor in an XR simply because that's what they came with.
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Re: windsor clevo in XR?

yeah go the windsor in the xr less of a head f*ck those lil 289's can get up and go and remember ya xr is lighter anyways than ya xt xw and xy's
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Re: windsor clevo in XR?

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yeah go the windsor in the xr less of a head f*ck those lil 289's can get up and go and remember ya xr is lighter anyways than ya xt xw and xy's
All the more reason to put a clevo in there...
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Re: windsor clevo in XR?

Lol. I knew i'd get a bit of a reaction... I'm sure a 460BB will fit? :D
Windsor or Clevo doesn't really matter much, either way its not a Chev...
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