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Old 06-21-2005, 22:03   #1 (permalink)
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C4=c10

So let me get this straight, a C10 is the name for a later Pan fill C4?? with bellhousing that bolts to the case and not the pump like some earlier ones?

so are they are all just bloody c4's? just wanted to clarify,
everyone is all C4 this and C10 that when they are the same box, just different revision..?? is that right?
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Old 06-21-2005, 22:22   #2 (permalink)
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I think you hit the nail on the head.

When I browse thru a catalog of you-beaut accessories for this tranny, they only list the C4 (with variations). No hint of the elusive and mystic C5/C6/C9/C10/C-U-L8R.
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I think you hit the nail on the head.

When I browse thru a catalog of you-beaut accessories for this tranny, they only list the C4 (with variations). No hint of the elusive and mystic C5/C6/C9/C10/C-U-L8R.
Actually the C6 is a different auto all together from the C4 and its derivitives, its a bigger and more heavy duty box.
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There'll be a tag on the box that says C4 or C10 or whatever it is

I think a C10 is a C4 made by Borg Warner...
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I must find those bloody worshop updates for this and solve this once and for all. The C4 is the early version of the C10 yes but thats all. The C10 has bigger bands and clutchs as well as differante front pump housing. It is stronger than the C4 because of it. Its like saying a turbo 350 is the same as a turbo 400. They are two completly differant box's. Dont you wonder why when you order parts for the C4/C10 they ask
you for the year or date of manufacturer, thats because of the two differant case's ring your local auto work shop and ask them and see what they tell you.
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I think you hit the nail on the head.

When I browse thru a catalog of you-beaut accessories for this tranny, they only list the C4 (with variations). No hint of the elusive and mystic C5/C6/C9/C10/C-U-L8R.
Spot on, there are 3 versions of the C4 (windsor, 6cyl and cleveland), all have significant differences, but ALL are recorded by Ford as C4's, you just need to know what vehicle it came out of to know which one it is, or what the part number is on the box!
I have NEVER seen any official Ford document that mentions C9 or C10, only C4.
I have only ever seen C9/C10 in aftermarket books and publications, i believe the notation C9/10 was made up by tranny joints for easy reference however in Ford speak they are all C4's
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c4,c9 and c10 are all the same gearbox there all c4's just latter models(c9 and c10) have 26 spline input shaft opposed to 24 spline c10 is pan fill where c9 is still case fill
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good, all clear now, i shall continue to call my box a pan fill C4, none of this C9-C10 crap!!
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good, all clear now, i shall continue to call my box a pan fill C4, none of this C9-C10 crap!!
You should check that little alloy tag (I think it should be under one of the extension housing bolts) - if it says C10 then it IS a C10...
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Actually the C6 is a different auto all together from the C4 and its derivitives, its a bigger and more heavy duty box.
Yeah I know, . . . I got carried away. Sorry 'bout that.
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