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Old 10-18-2001, 01:22   #1 (permalink)
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Engine Idle Switch/Clutch switch

I decide to ring Ford and find out how much one of these switches are, cause when I did my auto-manual conversion, I never put one in, and could not find out what it actually did.

Anyway I rang ford asked them about it, had trouble getting the guy to understand, and when he eventually understood what I was talking about, he brought up the price and get this....$320

Yep Three hundred and twenty dollars.

What the ****!, just for a crappy little switch, what the hell is going on?

Can anyone tell me why this little peice of plastic is so damn expensive?
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Old 10-18-2001, 17:45   #2 (permalink)
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I was quoted $92 a few days ago by Ford dealer for clutch switch on EA, which I thought was a rip-off for about the simplest switch you could make. Paid about $60 a while back for anti-run on switch in XF 34 Weber carb, and that is basic switch too.

I was quoted $30 at same time as clutch switch for the XD-E clutch cable spigot that goes on the engine side of the firewall. Last one I got was $1 at Pick a Part, which is where the next one is coming from too. I'd get clutch switch there too.
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I might try a wreckers to see if I can find one, but I have gone for about 9 months without it, so I guess I can keep going.

No-one can even tell what it actually does.
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Old 10-22-2001, 06:02   #4 (permalink)
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2 switches are used on a manual tranny to provide signal to the ECU. 1 switch is on the clutch pedal bracket & the other on the box & is operated by the gear selector. The switches are mounted in PARALLEL.
the info from both switches is used to cancel deceleration fuel cut off & lean cruise mode when neutral is detected & for idle speed loads...
ALSO 1 cause of surging on manuals EECIV this is why mine surged abit & took a bloody long time b4 someone(other than ford) found the prob....
Maybe caused by a lack of neutral drive switch signal to the ecu.The switch is on the T5 box&looks like a reversing light switch. It provides a signal to the ECU to provide different idle calibrations if the car is in gear or not, there is NO fault code for this!!!! The switch has a 5v supply from ECU pin 30 & the return is to pin 46.
When in neutral,pin 30 should read 0v , in gear 5v ELECTRICKERY AINT YA JUST LOVE IT
Hope it helps someone
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Old 10-22-2001, 19:18   #5 (permalink)
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I dont have either of these switches, so does that mean the ECU always thinks the car is in neutral or does it think it is always in gear?
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Old 10-23-2001, 04:46   #6 (permalink)
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SVO302, Your little message just made me think a bit about exactly that annoying surge me car has. (although the switch was fine on mine, it is quite oily due to a leaky big end seal)
who'd have thought fixing an oil leak would remedy a surge/hesitation problem:p
ADXF. I don't think it would really affect your setup(except maybe fuel economy-wise) unless you have cruise control as well.(switches prevent over revving of motor when cruise control is set but clutch is is / or is in neutral)
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Paul if the switch Im thinking you mean is located on the top cover of the gearbox (T5) then retail price is $32.50 inc GST......
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Old 10-23-2001, 20:49   #8 (permalink)
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Na its not that one. The switch I was after is located in the pedal box.

But dont worry as I will get one from a wreckers.
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