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Old 08-05-2003, 23:08   #1 (permalink)
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There is an aftermarket Gear lever for the toploader, made by renegate http://www.renagate.com there a sequential shifter i just wanted to know if anyone else knew anything about them or had any dramas with them? any comments about similar gear lever setups would be appreciated.
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Old 08-05-2003, 23:29   #2 (permalink)
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There is an aftermarket Gear lever for the toploader, made by renegate http://www.renagate.com there a sequential shifter i just wanted to know if anyone else knew anything about them or had any dramas with them? any comments about similar gear lever setups would be appreciated.
I have one on my newly reco'd Top Loader. Good and bad points below.

Good.
Shift time is decreased (when its done properly)
No missing gears in high pressure situations
Looks awesome.

Bad.
A top loader is still a pain in the ass to shift no matter what you bolt onto them. The gear stick is too short to get decent leverage onto it.
For $400 the hurst indy is smoother
Can't flat change.
No skipping gears (eg 2nd to 4th)

I would not get another one, but i'm looking to spend some cash on the box itself to see if it can be made just a little bit smoother.
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thats pretty much what i'm worried about, that for $600 i'm going to have something thats not much better than a regular vertical gate shifter, is there a site with the other style shifters... Mr gasket or something
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I'm currently replacing my single rail with a top loader/ Indy shifter. Its a hassle with the linkages etc to hook up to my XE just enough room. Anyone put one in an XE with a Hurst shifter?
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I'm currently replacing my single rail with a top loader/ Indy shifter. Its a hassle with the linkages etc to hook up to my XE just enough room. Anyone put one in an XE with a Hurst shifter?
They will fit, you may need to extend the hole in the tunnel so it can shift properly. I had to extend mine about 3" for the sequential to work but the indy won't be as bad.

A bigger problem is usually the handbrake cable interfering with the selectors for which there is no easy fix, unfortunatly.
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thats pretty much what i'm worried about, that for $600 i'm going to have something thats not much better than a regular vertical gate shifter, is there a site with the other style shifters... Mr gasket or something
None that I know of, top loaders don't seem to get a lot of aftermarket attention.
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They will fit, you may need to extend the hole in the tunnel so it can shift properly. I had to extend mine about 3" for the sequential to work but the indy won't be as bad.

A bigger problem is usually the handbrake cable interfering with the selectors for which there is no easy fix, unfortunatly.
Already made the hole bigger, hopfully I can insulate it enough with rubber so no noise gets in. It will have the console over the top though. I think the h/brake cabe is far enough back to not get in the way of the linkages.

My problem is now I have to hook up linkages and have forgotten where they originally were on the box and the shifter end, I'll have to play around with the shifter and find out.

On the box looking towards the front of the engine is the 1st linkage 3&4, the second is reverse and the furtherest 1st and 2nd?

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On the box looking towards the front of the engine is the 1st linkage 3&4, the second is reverse and the furtherest 1st and 2nd?
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