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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 10-10-02, 09:55 AM Thread Starter
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GM, Ford to jointly develop new transmission

Reuters / October 10, 2002

DETROIT - General Motors and Ford Motor Co. will work together, in a rare alliance, to develop a new transmission for front-wheel-drive vehicles, a GM official said on Thursday.

While the world's two largest automakers occasionally have entered into joint ventures before -- most notably with the Covisint e-commerce business -- such cooperation on key vehicle parts is rare.

Details of the program were scheduled to be released later on Thursday. But John Smith, GM's vice president of sales, service and parts, said that in the program, GM and Ford would build their own version of the transmission.

"These are among the most capital-intensive things we do," Smith said.

Most of the passenger cars GM and Ford sell in the United States are front-wheel drive.

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post #2 of 4 (permalink) Old 10-10-02, 03:12 PM
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That's pretty big news :tup:

It's kinda like the new company being formed by GM/Ford/Chrysler which will do purchasing of raw materials for all 3.

They expect to get much better prices & enhance competition with overseas companies.

I'm interested to see how things go.
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DETROIT, Mich., Oct. 10, 2002 – In a first-of-its-kind business arrangement between the two largest automakers, Ford Motor Company and General Motors Corp. today announced a joint program that will advance the state of transmission technology to benefit the environment and their customers.

The two companies will work together to develop a high-volume, front-wheel-drive 6-speed automatic transmission with improved fuel economy over today’s transmissions.

GM and Ford have signed an initial agreement – a "memorandum of understanding" – with the final agreement expected this winter. Both companies have been working independently on their own 6-speed transmission programs.

The new transmission would offer an estimated 4 percent to 8 percent improvement in fuel economy over traditional 4-speed automatic transmissions available in today’s front-wheel-drive cars.

Under the MOU signed last week, Ford and GM agreed to:

Share a common design, engineering and testing of the new transmission;
Jointly work with suppliers to develop and purchase components;
Assemble their own transmissions at their respective manufacturing plants.

The new 6-speed would be available beginning in mid-to-late decade on front-wheel-drive cars and sport-utility vehicles with mid-to-large displacement engines.

"This is an historic announcement and one that will have many important benefits for both companies," said Gary Cowger, president of GM North America. "Bringing together the immense capabilities of two powertrain organizations is a dynamic that will resonate throughout the industry."

"This agreement has huge potential for both companies, and it will pay off for our customers and our shareholders," said Jim Padilla, Ford group vice president, North America. "New transmissions require such high development costs that higher volumes will enable us to realize economies of scale and achieve our shared goals faster and at a better cost."

Only the base transmission design will be common. Each company will have powertrains that are distinct in feel and performance, since the transmissions will be mated to different engines, and the respective vehicle programs will have unique performance dynamics and calibration. Each company is responsible for integrating the transmission into its own vehicles.

The transmissions will share significant common technology and components. The design being pursued is a new architecture that will have optimal steps between gears and a wider gear ratio span to improve fuel economy. Featuring a compact design, the new 6-speed will be capable of higher torque capacity when compared to most existing front-wheel-drive transmissions such as 4-speed automatics and continuously variable transmissions (CVTs).

"This new 6-speed transmission is an important part of our commitment to improve fuel economy," said Dave Szczupak, vice president, Ford Powertrain Operations. "By sharing resources, we are working together to build a stronger business and improve the environment, while providing our customers great powertrains and exciting products."

"This could be the start of a new era in the world of automatic transmissions," said Tom Stephens, group vice president, GM Powertrain. "First, this transmission will have a simple but elegant design that improves overall transmission operation at a cost competitive with today’s automatics. Second, it showcases the benefits of collaboration with other companies on major components, which are extremely costly to bring to market."

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Is it back to two ( Ford & GM) after the New Venture Gear split between GM and Chrysler?
Anyhow I think the impact can be huge if efforts are effectively organized between the two and if real economy of scale is achieved.

But I still question the technical base for this transmission. "The design being pursued is a new architecture" and as said GM was a few months ahead with the design. If Allison did develop an effecient design then I can not think of any reason to share forces (why destoying a potential competetive advantage?).
Does this imply that the base is an external design e.g. Lepelletier?
It might also be that both Ford and GM did come to a conclusion with respect to the new "Antonov" design.
Anyhow the end of the winter is only a few months ahead.

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