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Old 09-25-2005, 14:06   #1 (permalink)
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A.o.d. Specialist Needed

I Have A 67 289 W Holley 4bl And Want To Upgrade To Overdrive.i Have Localy Found A Late 80`s V6 Mustang A.o.d. For 100 Bucs And Need To Know If It Will Work.i Have A Couple Of Bucs To Afford A Whole Lot Of 2cent Knowlege.i Already Tried A Forum Search But Didnt Find The Specifics I Need.i Would Also Like To Use A Tranny With Switch Operated Overdrive Operation.
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Old 09-25-2005, 17:45   #2 (permalink)
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The AOD will bolt right up, but it's not vacuum-operated, so you'll need a cable running from your shifter to the transmission. Check out www.windsor-fox.com for replacement stuff that looks stock. That AOD out of the 80s Fox Mustang will do, but I'd strongly recommend looking into one that's freshly rebuilt or find a guy to rebuild it for you. With the manual, the rebuild isn't horrible- just very time-consuming.

If you want to go with an aftermarket shifter (I'd recommend it if you want to keep it out of 4th until you decide to put it there), I'd say just get a B&M and be done with it. You'll still need the kick-down cable (TV cable) for a Holley 4bbl carb to AOD, which can be found on eBay for $24 from the seller Murphy Automotive.

If you want, go ahead and find a 2200-stall torque converter and install it while you're in there. It's very streetable, but provides the extra oomph off the line when you're at the track or just having a good time.

Also, a Transgo or B&M shift kit (Transgo available from Murphy Automotive for 90$) would greatly improve the life and performance of your AOD. They're simple to install if you have a little mechanical knowledge. I believe they come with instructions- can't remember.

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Old 09-26-2005, 18:18   #3 (permalink)
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What About Balance Issues?and Is A V6 Aod The Same As A 302 Aod
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Check www.windsor-fox.com for specifics- they'll be able to help you in much more detail. I think you need a flywheel from an AOD with the same balance as your 289 flywheel, but I'm not sure whether you'd need an adaptor.

The V6 AOD is the same as the V8 in some models, but just cut to the chase and buy one out of a GT. You can get it from www.stangparts.com and they'll even put a little warranty on it, I think.

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all good .thanx for the help
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Old 10-01-2005, 19:29   #6 (permalink)
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a week has gone by and now there is something on my mind . i have seen 80s mustangs with an electronic switch for overdrive on-off.whats the specifics on em.
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Those would be '91-93 models, generally. They have either an AODE with an added switch or an E4OD (I'm almost positive the E4OD didn't come stock in Mustangs- they're huge). The AODE is electronically controlled and some came with a button that could turn off overdrive to aid in passing maneuvers.

If you go that route, I believe you could get a B&M shifter with AOD adaptor kit, then buy a handle with a button on it and use the button as your AOD switch. Look on Summitracing.com for that. Look up "B&M AOD" and go from there. It'd run you about $250 (shipped) for the shifter, adapter, and handle with button, but I'd say it'd be worth it- it'd last forever and they look incredible- you can also choose a shifter designed to fit in your factory console. Don't bother looking on eBay for those items- IF you manage to find them, they'll be too expensive. I just ordered an AOD shifter and adapter built by B&M for my wagon. I went through Summit because I got both, shipped 2nd day air, for about the price of just the shifter on eBay.

Before you jump at that, though, let me do some research- you could probably actually score a stock shifter from a Foxbody Mustang and it'd work just fine after a little drilling and wiring (which you'd need to do on the B&M, anyway), but wouldn't require the adaptor and it'd be a whole Hell of a lot cheaper. Let me know if you're interested in that idea as soon as you read this so I'll know whether it'll be worth the hassle.

I'd also recommend a Transgo shift kit if you're going to be in there doing this stuff. You can get a mild kit on eBay for $40, shipped. I'll have both my shift kit and shifter equipment coming in this week- I'll let you know how the install and performance go. I went with the mild shift kit on eBay. They make a higher performance kit, but I am building my wagon to be a cruiser, not a racer, so I want the milder shifts. I'd recommend you do the same unless you take it to the track regularly and won't be driving it often.
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im thinkin reso mod daily driver .but the motor is a 289 factory 4 bl and i want to keep it.by the way the car is a 67 cougar,every thing seems to be the same as a mustang though.the only track i want to try my car on would be road course,and that would be just for fun,probably only once.
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Those are the good Cougars!

How do you currently shift the transmission? Is it a column shifter or floor/console shifter? What does the pattern look like? Mine looks like this:

P
R
N
D (with circle around it)
D (no circle)
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With AODs, the position farthest from P is first, or low. If you go up one notch to D, it'll go to 2/3, meaning it'll stay in second until the pressure is built up to go into third. The D (with the circle around it) is overdrive, or fourth. If you'd want to hold all your gears as you please, run first gear until you want to shift, slip it into the next notch, D, then after it shifts to second, pull it back down to first. It'll lock into second. When you're ready for third gear, put it back into the second notch. When you're ready for fourth, or overdrive, slip it into the third notch.

I wouldn't recommend doing that without a shift kit, though- it can overpressurize the valves in the valvebody and blow seals. The kit I ordered is for the daily driver, but if you want to really hold gears to any RPM safely, I'd say go with the higher performance kit. It's your call to make.
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Old 10-02-2005, 13:39   #10 (permalink)
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its a floor shifter with an aluminum c4.the tranny has no forward motion and needs to be rebuilt or replaced .i didnt buy the the 6cly aod yet . i think i want to hold out for a tranny that doesnt use the tv cabel or kick down rod.i want something to bolt in and ativate od when i decide.i really dont like automatic kick down.

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