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Old 10-09-2004, 04:23   #1 (permalink)
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Toploader into NC V8

ok, im thinking out aloud here.

thinking of getting a toploader from say XW or somethnig like that.
i know its only a 4 speed box, but will be a lot tougher than any T5 could wish to be.

just wondering. heard that a windsor toploader bellhousing will bolt to both early and late blocks. im wanting to know once and for all if this is correct or not.

also, does anyone know of a place that makes a gearbox mount for toploader into E Series?

also, will a 3.45 diff ratio be good to have with a toploader? if not, whats recomended.

anyone know how to calculate rpm / roadspeed

thanks in advance
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The old style will not fit easily, as you will have to convert the car to hydraulic clutch, get a new starter, which will then not clear the pipes on the RH bank, get a new engine plate, and get a 50oz/inch large 164 tooth flywheel. (For starters).
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ah ok, thanks for the reply

like i said i was just thinking out aloud, T5 here i come then
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ah ok, thanks for the reply

like i said i was just thinking out aloud, T5 here i come then
Or alternatively source a non-hydraulic clutched Toploader bellhousing and use it with a Cable clutch conversion from the states, but with an aussie cable.
The sandwich plate would be the same as a clevo. as wouold the flywheel.
Basically, not nearly as difficult as suggested.

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Or alternatively source a non-hydraulic clutched Toploader bellhousing and use it with a Cable clutch conversion from the states, but with an aussie cable.
The sandwich plate would be the same as a clevo. as wouold the flywheel.
Basically, not nearly as difficult as suggested.

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You have done how many? A)If he stays cable, he doesn't need a conversion from the states, the local (factory) setup will fit. B)Sandwich plate off clevo will suit flywheel off clevo, which is large diameter, 28.2oz/inch balance. Starter will not clear pipes out on 164tooth diameter. Engine will shake to pieces with wrong balance. C)Where are you going to get a toploader B/H to suit 164 tooth flywheel, cable clutch? B/H from the states are cable on small diameter flywheel, but are Tremec length, and will not suit toploader.
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You have done how many? A)If he stays cable, he doesn't need a conversion from the states, the local (factory) setup will fit. B)Sandwich plate off clevo will suit flywheel off clevo, which is large diameter, 28.2oz/inch balance. Starter will not clear pipes out on 164tooth diameter. Engine will shake to pieces with wrong balance. C)Where are you going to get a toploader B/H to suit 164 tooth flywheel, cable clutch? B/H from the states are cable on small diameter flywheel, but are Tremec length, and will not suit toploader.
I was pretty sure there was a kit to suit converting the Z linkage setups on the big bells...
Sorry, I got distracted half way through the reply (people actually wanting me to do work) and forgot to list getting the balance factor sorted out by someone who does balancing. A few slugs of heavy metal would sort it...
I wasn't sure how tight the headers are on the starter. a Gear reduction unit perhaps?
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Ok. looks like i was wrong.... however...
http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/conversions.htm
http://www.toploadertransmissions.com/install.html

Same setup as a windsor powered falc.
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Both the examples given utilise the factory 157 tooth flywheel, which could be done in a local car. You will still need to get a RH 2 bolt compact starter and a sandwich plate to suit small diameter flywheel. Clevo stuff will not fit.
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Or you could use a Turbo Supra Gearbox!
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