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Old 02-28-2005, 23:08   #1 (permalink)
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What the F%$# is going on???? HELP

I have brand new billet axles(moser) and installed them into the diff today after finally getting my machined disks back. The brakes are XE/XF alloy calipers and mounts all standard parts except the axles. Disks are DBA slotteds off my old LTD which had identical brake setup.

My problem is that when assembled the caliper won't go on and it looks that the disk is too far out from the caliper mount, the gap between disk and mount is about 6mm and from memory its should be much tighter?? cos if the pads wore down it could slip out of its mount. The diff guy is looking into it but says they are the std specs for diskbraked fords and he doesn't know whats going on either. I bolted the disks on so it couldn't have been that the disks were sitting out from the axle.

I don't know what is going on, if the axles are std ford dimensions what else could be wrong its all std stuff???? WTF is wrong.

PLEASE help or post anything of relevance.
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Old 02-28-2005, 23:41   #2 (permalink)
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you did remember the axle spacers? have a look on your old ones. they are about 6-8mm thick
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Have you got some picks without the the disk on??
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Old 03-01-2005, 01:03   #4 (permalink)
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Where are these axle spacers supposed to go and what do they look like??

I don't know what you mean, wouldn't axle spacers move the axle further out causing more drama???

Here is a pic of the axle end without disk, its not that good quality pic.

I have checked axle flange and disk flange thickness and they are both correct. I still have no idea how to combat this problem.
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Check measurement from flange side of bearing to flange face. There are a couple of different measurements used.
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Definately missing the spacer on the axle,
Take one axle out of the diff and take a photo of the bearing area.
There should be a spacer between the bearing and the hub side of the axle.
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Old 03-01-2005, 15:19   #7 (permalink)
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9psi EB-axle spacers will push the axles further out of the diff when placed between the bearing and the hub(I guess you mean axle flange) further compounding the problem.

The axles are machined wrong gonna get 3mm knocked off em then all will be good, I compared them to std axles out of my mates ZJ and they are almost 2mm greater from bearing to flange face. The std gap between rotor and caliper mount is 4mm once my axles have been done my gap should be 2.5mm which is acceptable clearance. Thank F&*# for that problem solved.

Cheers fellas for your help.
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9psi EB-axle spacers will push the axles further out of the diff when placed between the bearing and the hub(I guess you mean axle flange) further compounding the problem.
Yeah, your right,
I misinterpreted your 1st post and thought the disc was too far in, not too far out.

Are the bearings the same width?
If you get the axles machined, you might need to take the same amount off the spline end too, as if the axle is too long on this end it can foul on the centre pin.

You can check this by putting a mountain of grease on the spline end (end of the axle) and sliding the axle fully in, then out, and see if the grease has been touched.
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Futher to that, are you sure the discs are on all the way - from the pic, it doesnt look like the hub flange is far out enough to go into the rim.

Billets off the shelf need to be machined, to fit the smaller diameter disc and drum centres, if they havent been machined, then its possible the disc is not all the way back resting on the axle face - it may just be fouling on the centre hole even though it is bolted up.

Try putting the disc on backwards for a better visual.
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