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Old 06-03-2003, 07:51   #1 (permalink)
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Can an ECCV control a BTR M85LE

Im putting an EF dash into my EA, and as such will run an ECCV system with the intergrated AUTO-ECU. As such my seperate autoECU will be come redundant. My question is, Can an EF/L ECCV run a BTRM85LE trans. I know they are the essentialy same as the 95/97LE, but i assume wiring is diffrent between the 85 and the 95/97 boxes.

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Old 06-04-2003, 00:57   #2 (permalink)
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As far as I can make out, I don't think it can. The voltage and resistance values for the 85 is quite different from the 95/97's. You would have to change the electronics from a 95/7 trans into the 85 I would think.
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I dont know, but ill throw some ideas anyway.

If it doesnt, you could leave the existing auto ecu running the box and get a manual version of the EECV. Youd have to get creative with the wiring. Another thing you could do is just convert to manual. But yu may want to keep the auto anyway.
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The EEC-V will run the auto, however the shifts will be smoother, but you can use one of my modules to counteract this (see website).

However, more important than the auto,
You will find (unless you have already put a bbm manifold on) that it will ping real bad due to the two timing maps of the ecu.

Also the EF eec will require a complete harness change, due to the different pinouts of the ecu. (104 pins)
Then you will be faced with the problem of the car not starting due to not having smartlock.

Unless you are going to retrofit the complete electrics from the EF, including the manifold (and dizzy if the EA is cfi CFI) it will most likely not work, EF's run spark packs (multiple coils)

Either concentrate on retrofitting EL (EL ecu straight fit into EB /ED with smartlock) ecu and smartlock module into it or sell the EA and buy a later model, because personally, i dont think its going to be worth stuffing around with the ecu swap just for a dash. There is more involved than just swapping the ecu.

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In my opinion I wouldnt bother with dash change.
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i understand the problems with the EF ECU, hence ill probably use an EF ECU+smartlock.

Also, i remeber someware that the ECCV could be tricked into not changing the maps above 3800rpm.

i relise the dash changeover is a big job, but its something ive always wanted to do.
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You do realise you will need to replace all wiring from the ECU, all the way to the battery. Or at least chop and change it.

Youd find it much easier with an EL ecu and smartlock as the EL ecu will plug straight into the EA harness.
Is it cfi or mpefi?

You can leave bbm pin disconnected, but it will ping badly due to the incorrect timing map, either that or it will be gutless.

IMO dont bother, but its your choice...

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its CFI for the moment MPFI comming, but the injection loom (the part from the firewall to the ECU is the essentially the same CFI/MPFI)

Also, i may try to source an XH ECU, as they ran the EL cluster but the EA/D injection system

Either that or i could save a whole heap of trouble and go BBM
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