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Old 12-03-2002, 23:05   #1 (permalink)
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Cheap Manual!!!!

hey guys,

I am in the process of having a Manual fitted to my EF....now this is what I figure it will cost in the end....

Manual conversion: $1400 (now this was out of an EL XR6 ute with only 97,000km. the utes are MUCH more availiable then sedans and they are about the same)
new clutch: $250 (this was PBRs performance clutch)
install: $600 (that was with Herrod, only the best!!!)

so that's about $2250 and you've still got an auto to sell which I got $1000 for before (just get someone like Fuildrive to do a check on before you take to out)

also I could have got a non-XR conversion for $1200 and herrod would have installed it for $600, but they always recomend a new clutch....then minus the $1000 that you'll get for the auto...

so for those of you who have been told it cost heaps, you've heard living proof that it won't break the bank.....

also a manual is one of the best performance mods you can make, in my opinon.....

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Sounds like a good deal dave! Look forward to hearing your before and after comparison. I'm quite keen to do this too, if only there was a Rob Herrod for every state...

BTW, you do know it was a XH ute dont you?
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What do you mean by non-XR conversion? They are both the same box aren't they?

I got very seriously into looking into doing the conversion but gave up in the end. A combination of dodgy wreckers who kept upping the price everyone time I called up and the worry that I am not going to be happy with the finished product. Gave up in the end.

Funny thing is that one of the wreckers who I was trying to buy a manual conversion kit from told me had 3 other guys interested in it so I better get in quick. I eventually decided against it and now 2-3 months later its still being advertised.

Still thinking of going back there and giving him a lower offer and saying take it or leave it. Always worth a shot I spose
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What do you mean by non-XR conversion? They are both the same box aren't they?
Externally they are interchangeable but XR's have different ratios, mainly first and fifth. They are also marginally stronger.
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fordboy 1996, do you have to change the computer? I've heard that the comps. are different between auto and manual, from what I've been told the torque curve is more aggresive for the manual and something about the idle quality?

I'm looking around for an EF - EL XR6 and good manuals are hard to find so I'm thinking of getting an auto and converting to 5 speed.
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Umm all 4.0L sixes have the same ratios and are all the same strength!

The 3.9s T5s were different though
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BundyBlackXR8, I would just keep looking for those elusive manuals. You will be much better off in the end by the time you have stuffed around doing a conversion.
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From what I have read the auto eec is more aggresive on timing I could be wrong and also an auto eec will work on manual.. Just keep showing fault codes on the auto section..But still work..
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Sounds like a good idea Spinksy, its hard to find a manual....I'm in no hurry so I'll just keep looking.
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Umm all 4.0L sixes have the same ratios and are all the same strength!

The 3.9s T5s were different though
I said change in strength was marginal, and it is based on internal differences. (tooth count on input shaft mainly.) XF and EA are the same box. Non XR EB to EL are meant to have the same box again. (I haven't seen one that didn't). XR to EL have the old V8 mustang gearsets. So far that is two boxes in XF to EL. Ford List two boxes for AU, one for VCT and one for non-VCT cars. (both different to the above boxes) I haven't pulled down an AU I6 box yet, so am unsure if this is gospel.
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