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Old 11-28-2002, 01:30   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

My air con compressor is on the way out, still works though.
Anyway the dude at the auto electrics place says that to fit a new
compressor to my EL and gas it up will be around $800. $650 of which is for the part and the rest is for the gas and labour to fit it.

Would it be worth it to get a compressor from the wreckers ?
What about one from an AU Falcon, does anyone know if it will bolt into the EL model without any probs ?? If I got an EL one from the wreckers, it may just die like my current one from being used over the last 4-5 years, I was thinking an AU as it would be newer.

Any thoughts appreciated.
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Old 11-28-2002, 02:54   #2 (permalink)
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I can't figure out why it would be on the way out on such a late model car? I was quoted $800-odd when I wanted to convert my EA to R134a which would presumably have meant a new compressor, but there was nothing wrong with my old one so I ended up paying a fraction of the price elsewhere.

I'd double check that this is actually necessary.
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Old 11-28-2002, 03:38   #3 (permalink)
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i paid $780.00 for my compressor and that was just for the part with out the price of fitting .....they could give me a price to rebuild the old one untill they pulled it apart but said it could be up to $600.00 so i opted for a new one
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Hey ELGhiaV8,

If you got more then 50000km out of it you are lucky.From EF to EL the compressors have a very common problem for becoming noisy which turns into a rattle then complete lock-up.The internals of the compressor either the rotating vane or the fixed vane breaks and thus locks it up sometimes actually cracking the case,like throwing a rod so to speak.Worse case it locks up causing the WAC relay(part of series of relays to supply power to ECU) to blow and then the engine won't start and the worse part you can't remove the belt with out lossing drive in the power steerin,water pump and alternator.

$800 is about right,$650 is the going rate for an aftermarket compressor which is the same as the genuine unit but in a different box.If the compressor is noisy it my also need a flush out and dryer, worse case if metal is in the system.If it is not that noisy then get in quick before it causes major damage.

A Au compressor is totally different in design using piston type set-up compared to the vane,the manifold setup is also different,so to answer your question no you can't swap them.

On another note for some strange reason when the EA-ED's esently same design (vane) that hardly do break internally even when there completly out of oil they still work after some oil added.It must be due the fact they used cheaper alloy metal.

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Does that mean your better of getting a compressor of an EA-ED??
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Old 11-28-2002, 06:35   #6 (permalink)
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You could but the problem is that the pulley has a different offset to the EF and EL ,but I could be wrong as I think it might fit later EB and ED.I know a EL compressor fits a EB by cutting some I think 2 ribs off the belt to compenstate for the offset.But weather the reverse would happen you might just have to try.It might not be a good idea to cut ribs off the main drive belt as it drives more then one thing.The other issue is that the manifolds are slightly different but nothing a bit of bending will fix.Have a go.

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Hey Lukeyn039,

First up thanks for the advice ! Much appreciated! But a question, you said 'If the compressor is noisy it my also need a flush out and dryer' what is this procedure actually involve, is it something I can do, or should the guy at the auto electricians have suggested it ?

The compressor when engaged makes a sort of ticking sound. If it can be remedied without waiting for it to seize and get a new one, well I am all for it bring on the maintenance.

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Hey ELGhia V8,

I would get the Auto elecy to spilt the compressor in two and inspect the components, checking for any breakages and small metal fragements in the oil or if the oil is a grey colour then its definately full of metal.If there is none of these then all that is needed is a replacement of compressor and new dryer.If there is a break sometimes you can be lucky and it can be a clean one or just started and no metals as such have broken away but this is rare.

As for the flush its better off being done by the auto elecy as they have the proper flushing machine and the chemicals used can be harmful to your health if in hailed.

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P.S by the sounds of things it should be ok(not broken) but have it checked if it is worrying you.

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