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Old 02-16-2002, 07:21   #1 (permalink)
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how to get better handling in the wet?

Hi, I've got a stock 6cyc forte with abs. In dry conditions, I'm satisfied with the way it handles. But in the wet, I'm finding it's a totally different 'beast'. With all the rain (during the melbourne "summer") I'm noticing sometimes how dodgey it can be when taking corners, or starting off at the traffic lights. BTW I mean this in the context of driving normally, ie. not pushing it or anything. Basically, the back end of the car sometimes just comes 'unstuck' and sways something shocking (I hope someone knows what I'm on about??? :p) ...Obviously I don't expect a base model car to handle with the poise of an xr or fairmont, but more 'stability' in the wet would be nice.

Also wondering about traction control (dunno if it's even possible to get that on a au2 forte?). I've seen it used on a fairmont and it seemed to make a difference in the wet (but the fairmont also had better suspension/IRS etc as well).

Basically just wondering what options I have? (oh and selling the car and buying a ghia is not an option :p)

Thanks in advance
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Old 02-16-2002, 07:45   #2 (permalink)
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You could get some decent wet weather tyres for starters, in the latest Motor mag tyre test BFGoodrich Profiler G came out in top for wet weather handling. And maybe a LSD also.
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Old 02-16-2002, 07:48   #3 (permalink)
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I'd give a good set of tyre a shot first, especially if you still have the factory tyres on. Could make a big difference. As to what tyre, I'm not sure, but maybe get a copy of the tyre comparison done by Wheels or Motor mag. :s4

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Old 02-16-2002, 17:43   #4 (permalink)
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My last car was a AU S pack and I found the same problem. It liked to get unstuck under aceleration in the wet.

I now have a AUII XR6 HP which isn't a great deal different in setup but with the Dunlop Bathurst 1000 tires it grips the road so much better.

Tires make all the difference, go and treat yourself to some good ones!
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Old 02-16-2002, 18:31   #5 (permalink)
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had same problem with my xr ,tryed new rear tyres ,alignment,and check your tyre pressure,or just watch your right foot cars don,t loose control drivers do.
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Old 02-16-2002, 19:11   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the replies guys :)

Never knew the stock tyres were seen as being that bad eh? Mine have done 20k and still seem ok tread wise, I'm pretty easy on them, no burnouts etc (dont even know if I could :p). But after reading the replies, it seems they will be something I'll be considering replacing!

longjohn1: I totally agree with your comment about how drivers loose control not the car. It's just that in my car when driving in the wet sometimes u feel like u just have to really nurse it around corners. And even when u r not demanding much from the car from rest, it still sometimes seems to have a mind of its own... :(

Getting LSD sounds like it would be very $$$$ :( But would traction control be an option as well??

btw thanks again ppl!
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Old 02-16-2002, 23:13   #7 (permalink)
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LSD would cost you under $1000 and give you a huge improvement. Traction control would probably cost more and I don't think it would be of much help without LSD.
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Old 02-16-2002, 23:32   #8 (permalink)
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Yeap Tyres for sure, gotta say the stock OEM tyres are pretty ordinary actually to correct it very bloody ordinary.

Tyres make a world of difference and at a relatively cheaper price than other mods it's good value too.
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Go the Tyres option

Don't worry about LSD, it doesn't help me any in my AUII XR6HP. This is the second XR I've had and I know the problem is shit tyres. I got the car with $6,000 discount, and when I asked for 17" wheels they put shit tyres on it at the dealer (Ultra HPR GTs I think).

Found Falken tyres weel priced and very good in both wet and dry. Had these on my old AU XR6HP after the Dunlop SP9000, and found them to be a very good tyre. Didn't have any trouble in the wet with them.

I know what you're going through at the moment. If I try and take off up a hill I sometimes have to put the Auto in 2 (will start in 2, not 1) to take off to stop the wheels spinning, and sometimes even this doesn't work. Otherwise it's just spin on the hill until it moves forward enough to get grip. Don't even talk about corners. I'm shit scared on some slippery roads in the wet, I'm just happy in the knowledge that if it steps out the XRs handle so well you can get it back in line pretty easily. And all this happens on corners that I would take at quite some speed in the dry. I even have four wheel skids when I go around my local roundabout at about 10 km/h or less). I'd be changing these shit tyres, but att he moment I'm divorced and flat out paying the car off, so they're low on my priority list. I just pray that it won't rain too much.

Anyway, go the tyres option, it'll definately make a difference.

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Old 02-17-2002, 15:08   #10 (permalink)
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Either change your tyres or revise your use of the loud pedal....
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