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Old 12-07-2001, 00:28   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All-

This weekend I'm going to be trading in my Nissan 200SX on a bog-stock 1999 AU falcon forte (4.0 litre).

Being used to a car that can pull mid-13's (its modified).. I wouldn't mind getting slightly more grunt out of the six.

What are the best value for money mods?

I'm hoping for about 185kw.

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Old 12-07-2001, 00:45   #2 (permalink)
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Good Decision mate and welcome aboard!

Why AU forte? You could get a nice tidy EL XR6 for similar dosh and you would start with a better performance platform.

Obviously you would fit a free flowing exhaust system + new intake ( forced if you have the $$$$), a good cam is said to bring around 20 Rear wheel Kw's, chip ( UNICHIP of course)

Were you looking for 185 Kw at rear wheels?
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Old 12-07-2001, 00:56   #3 (permalink)
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Were you looking for 185 Kw at rear wheels?
Whooooooo from a IL6 185 at the wheels that would be one heavily modified six.. and I doubt it would be streetable...

Or thats "ONE" big Turbo.... (Big Dollars)... Don't waste it on a Forte..

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Old 12-07-2001, 01:03   #4 (permalink)
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Adam were you looking for a street car with some drag use?

Yeah Nipper 185 RW Kw's is a bit optimistic hey....
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185 Kw's at the flywheel/engine is very achievable really with the mods mentioned above.
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Old 12-07-2001, 02:27   #6 (permalink)
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185 Kw's at the flywheel/engine is very achievable really with the mods mentioned above.
Yeap i agree, 185kw at the fly or say 140kw at the wheels is more than possible.

Go the cam, induction, exhaust and chip should bring you to that figure.
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Yep I was after 185 flywheel kw.. (not at the wheels!!) Mid-low 15's would be really nice.

I'm getting rid of the 200SX because its just too damned expensive.

The only caryard that will let me trade down that has an XR8 wants $23,000 for a 1995 model with 110,000kms. They are giving me $41,500 for my 8 month old S15 Spec R.

If I'm paying $19,000 for this AU..I'm likely to have a few grand to spend on mods.. a cam would be cool. I don't mind if it idles lumpy, and some more topend would be great. I'm keen on going for a cam before doing the exhaust.

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Dude,

the December edition of MOTOR has on of the Journo's AUXR6's with aftermarket headers, exhaust and unitchip supposedly putting out 132 rwKw so that may be all you need to do???

Man if those Unichips are so good I might get one for my XR8.
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Here, this guy reckons he can get 170RWKw for $3500, would be more than worth your while to check it out. With that kinda grunt it should be hitting 14s easy...


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I don't own a Ford six, however I own a nissan six and face many simular problems...

here is a starter list (not in order) for you to look into:
-Exaust (3")
-headers (good type)
-Cam (oh man everyone has cams for fords!!)
-Intake (cold air, tickford box etc etc)
-XR6 or chipped computer(higher rev limit for cam, no speed limiter better mapping)
-MAKE it a manuel (auto limited top speed for reason)
-Low LSD diff (~3.45-3.7)
-Some fat low pro rubber/wheels
-Brake upgrade (pads, discs, calipers, fluid)
-Suspension (lower it 35mm)
-Removal of excess weight (spare, jack, some underbody/noise insulation, alloy crank pully)
-Body kit stuff
-Interior bits like chrome doorhandles, chrome ghia bits, leathery bits etc

My general prefence would be to pursue say a XR6 (or simular) cam, computer (xr6 or simular), Headers and a 3" exaust. If you want to go all out on a wild cam I would suggest you go on a lower something like 3.45+ diff at the same time.

However pick your cam carefully, some can be crappy, and its a expensive thing to have a crappy selection on.

I would do in order:
-Intake (cheap and quick and worthwhile)
-Extractors+Exaust (most benificial over all maybe)
-Cam and computer (pushing the last little bit and spend your time making desicion)
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