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I have a Ford Fairmont Ghia EA 3.9 Mpi and I have a 3 speed Auto :( I would like to know if the Powerchip are are any good I was look at geting the Gold Powerchip

This is the web link : http://www.powerchip.com.au/chips/chip.asp?cid=For0042

Mr Sparkle

Welcome to the boards mate! :D

Firstly, I think I speak for all of us when I say "forget the Powerchip - get a new exhaust / headers" :thumbup: You'll find that a Powerchip on it's own is highly unlikely to give you any noticeable gains in performance, and may or may not improve your fuel consumption.

IMO if you are after a performance gain, the first thing to do is ditch the standard restrictive exhaust / headers. These are a source of restriction which should be done before anything else. You will get noticeable and measurable gains by improving the exhaust, unlike just plugging in a Powerchip. Don't believe the hype mate!

As far as chips go, they only really start to come into their own when you've got a good flowing intake and exhaust, because essentially all the chip does is adjust your fuel and ignition parameters. And in this respect, something like a Unichip will generally perform better since it's tuned specifically to your car, in realtime, on a dyno. The Powerchip on the other hand is generally pre-configured, and therefore nowhere near as effective.

Anyhow, I'm sure there'll be some more words from those on here who have had experience with them both!! :D

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Martin

Yeah forget the Powechip, throw a 5 speed in there and itll go like a stink, especially with an exhaust like Mike suggested:D:D.

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MDN_EF_5.0L

Thanks for the advice will not be get a power chip now
Would you know how much it would cost to change the gear box from a 3 speed auto to a five speed And thanks for the Welcome to the form I was so pleased when I found this form about Australia Fords a place where I can ask advice about my car

RATT

I was going to get a powerchip on my SSS Pulsar last year but when I read about the sopposed power gains, a 12kw gain (flywheel) from the chip alone with standard exhaust etc. It just did't sound right.

I agree with the boys, get a manual tranny or buy a 5 speed Falcon and then do the exhaust etc.

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EA S

5sp box is around $1,000 changeover (i.e you need to have one already to swap) in Melb, plus you'll need other bits like manual ECU, pedal box, flywheel, clutch, cable and ECU connections on clutch and trans. Cheapest way is probably to buy a whole 5sp car and swap the bits, then sell the donor car as an auto for about what you paid for it. Make sure you get T5, which is standard in EA onwards and some (?all) late XF's, not BW 0507 which is light duty and will break. If you're going to pay someone to do it all, you'd probably be better off swapping your auto car for a decent 5sp car - there'd be a few grand in labour and parts and you won't get the money back on a resale.

WINGED

I previosly owned an eb1 3.9mpefi auto man swap was the biggest improvement .Also done exhaust and extactors (genie),cam (crow)and filter.
All mods were done by herrod and i had it dynod 93Kw not to bad for the mods that were done and that motor.Also had a shifter put in the box big improvement.

EA S

Winged

Those are a couple of mods I'm looking at and I'm interested in what happened.

Is 93kw the right figure? It's only about 7kw rw above stock. Would have thought there was more with cam, extractors and exhaust, but Herrod would have got max out of it.

Was it Crow 825 cam? What was compression / kms like on motor before mods? Was it K&N airbox filter?

WINGED

93kw at wheels my 185 el2 xr8 is 137kw at wheels so in comparison thats not bad. yes K & N filter in standard air box i would'nt put a pod filter on unless you run cold air to it which most people dont.Not sure on speck of cam i dident want it to idle like s*** so it wasent that lumpy.
Car had done 150.000klm doht know what comp was.

Talk to jeff at herrods about a cam,extractors, exhaust and filter package they will also dyno the car.

you will not regret it its such a diference the motor can finally breath.

Martin

93Kw at the Wheels from a modified EB 3.9L MPI Manual(??) is pretty piss poor IMO, that equates to a mere 133Kw at the engine, give or take a few Kw. Which is 6kw down on stock.

Even if that was an Auto id be still pissed, as it'll be only around 143kw.

What did it dyno stock?

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1993 ED XR6 M5 (1 of 329)
Polynesian Green
Turbo on the way!!
1993 EBII Fairmont (Now wrecking, PM if you want any parts)
1988 Nissan R31 Skyline