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Old 07-31-2004, 02:37   #1 (permalink)
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Should i chip my NL Tickford???

Just wondering if i should travel down that road? She is still stock at the moment-Windsor 5L,GT40P heads, roller rockers, special camshaft, upgraded 65mm throttle body and ems, low restriction extractors and exhaust, sposed to be 195kw@4700rpm.
Any idea how many kw i could expect to gain for my dollars?
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Old 07-31-2004, 02:55   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Should i chip my NL Tickford???

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i wouldn't do it yet, the mods that you have arn't sufficient enough to warrent it, the eecv's can handle quite a lot of changes as long as you as you have the maf calibrated correctly to match your injectors, you can do quite a fair few mods.
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Re: Should i chip my NL Tickford???

Mate, I personally believe that plug in chips are all crap in Fords. They are just a carry over from the Brand X brigade and are more trouble than worth.
If you were to go to a unit like the unichip, this I would highly recommend, but stay away from the lies they try to sell you regarding plug ins.
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Mate, I personally believe that plug in chips are all crap in Fords. They are just a carry over from the Brand X brigade and are more trouble than worth.
If you were to go to a unit like the unichip, this I would highly recommend, but stay away from the lies they try to sell you regarding plug ins.
have you tried one?

I have one in my car RIGHT NOW as a trial. The plug in chips are more than capable HOWEVER, just like the unichip, they really are at their best when dyno tuned to your car. Once tuned to the car they are probably as good as any other chip.

That said, get your exhaust done first, then chip it, you will be stunned at the results.
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Re: Should i chip my NL Tickford???

Simple answer 8-16rwkw for $1200

Driveability should be better and feel is probably like 20rwkw gain if you have the mods to take adavantage of more adventurous tuning.

The fairlane by tickford had the heads so I guess with a good exhaust and maybe the AUIII 220 throtle body it may be good value for an on car chip.

Its the last mod I would think to get once the basic pumping inlet exhaust cam area has been modded
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i would do an exhaust first before going for a chip, you already have the 1.7 rollers,bigger maf and a 65mm tb which is big enough..
get an exhaust, then get a chip done
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Hi there Casper,

To answer you yes I have have tried plug in chips and spent quite a few hours on the dyno setting them up, and have never really found any major gains. The Ford EECV computer is more than capable and does a bloody great job. I dont feel that a plug in chip is really worth the $$$$ spent. If you do any further mods, its back off to the dyno, and another chip, seeing that they are set in resin, and are not re-programmable.
If you go to a unichip, you can constantly change what is going on if you change any componants. I will be running a uni-chip on my motor once completed, and it should be putting out about 520 or so horses, and that is in conjunction with the EECV ELGT ECU I have. As far as we (engine builder and myself) are concerned, we should be able to get it all to run quite well, and this is with 8X50 mm throttle bodies on the bloody thing. Dont ever underestimate the capabilities of the factory ECU.
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Hi there Casper,

To answer you yes I have have tried plug in chips and spent quite a few hours on the dyno setting them up, and have never really found any major gains. The Ford EECV computer is more than capable and does a bloody great job. I dont feel that a plug in chip is really worth the $$$$ spent. If you do any further mods, its back off to the dyno, and another chip, seeing that they are set in resin, and are not re-programmable.
If you go to a unichip, you can constantly change what is going on if you change any componants. I will be running a uni-chip on my motor once completed, and it should be putting out about 520 or so horses, and that is in conjunction with the EECV ELGT ECU I have. As far as we (engine builder and myself) are concerned, we should be able to get it all to run quite well, and this is with 8X50 mm throttle bodies on the bloody thing. Dont ever underestimate the capabilities of the factory ECU.

The chiptorque chips are no longer in resin, havent been for a long time now. They are totally reprogrammable as often as you want and also tuned on the dyno if needed. I know this as I just had it done just 2 weeks ago, have video footage of it happening too!
As for the stock EEC V being pretty good, I do agree, however mine was completely screwed up. I had a stock A/F ratio of 10-1. I can say the CT chip made a huge difference. As for unichip, I'll let you know about that next week, its being fitted on friday as part of the aufalcon.com chip challange.
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Re: Should i chip my NL Tickford???

with 8X50 mm throttle bodies on the bloody thing

Man that setup is hot. Its what I wanted on my big block 429 before the car was trashed....
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