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Old 09-20-2004, 01:57   #1 (permalink)
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Those damn timing chain guides!!

Alright, I'm well on my way to replacing my head gasket but I've run in to a dilly of a pickle. One of the timing chain guides was broken!!! The one that is held in place by the 10mm bolt on the front of the head. It's broken about 60mm down from the bolt, was broken when the head came off.

Now I'm realllllyyyy not keen on replacing it, in fact I can't be stuffed with this. I just want to know if I can put it all back in place like nothing ever happened and hope to god there are no side affects?? I don't have a balancer puller, and I really can't be stuffed replacing the gasket and all that. I don't know what to do.

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Old 09-20-2004, 02:02   #2 (permalink)
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Oh and is there anything I should know about AU head gaskets before I slap mine down?? I've bought the kit, was a bit dearer than EA but I'm assured quality and it'll bring my head 20 thou closer to the block

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Re: Those damn timing chain guides!!

know how to torque up the AU one?
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Old 09-20-2004, 02:07   #4 (permalink)
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Ahh no??

I thought just slap the bolts in in the right order and torque 'em up to 40NM (or FT, whichever comes first ).

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I believe (dont quote me) that you torque em all up to 30nm first, then another 120degree turn. I got a torque gauge thingy if you need it as i wouldn't be guessing 120degree turns...
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Re: Those damn timing chain guides!!

ive ran my old car with a broken guide before..... it was the same one as u said.... its youre choice....
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Old 09-20-2004, 03:33   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Those damn timing chain guides!!

you can get both guides and all the gaskets for around $60, its just whether you can be bothered. i replaced mine on the EA 12 months ago, i cant really remember but is it possible to replaced the top guide without taking the whole lot apart? iirc i rekon you could but my memory is shocking.
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Re: Those damn timing chain guides!!

Just did the head on the ED again, broken guide, Just put it back like nothing ever happened, works fine to me :)
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Re: Those damn timing chain guides!!

Yep gotta take the timing chain cover off to change any of the timing guides.

Probably a good idea to do them because when the bottom one breaks(which no doubt it has) the chain starts rubbing against the bottom of the timing case and will probably end up in annoying chain rattle noise followed by lovely chain snappage and engine explodo.

Then again it takes a lot of work getting the timing cover off. The harmonic balancer part is the easy bit, it's dropping down of the sump to get enough clearance for the timing case thats the bitch of a job.

The top right hand guide is probably okay even when snapped at the top cos it's held down the bottom. If the bottom ones snap however I can only imagine the results.
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Old 09-20-2004, 06:20   #10 (permalink)
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INJECTED250 and Au2low, you guys have made my day lol I'm gunna leave it broken. So over it that it ain't funny. If it all goes in a bad way it'll be cheaper to slap in a new motor anyway, even though it's highly unlikely.

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