Gunns

I am finally pulling my finger out and getting rid of the tennis racquet. I have all the gear to do the mpfi conversion, but now I am thinking of going BBM instead of the standard ea setup. What is involved, and how much better is the BBM setup?

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EFFalcon

Depends what your futura plans are.
hardcore performance wise, the ED MPFI manifold flows the best and is probably better if you're going any sort of forced induction.
Speak to Bass Crazy, Thanatos, Rmyers, psycho chicken as they've all done it.

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In Progress: BA XR Side Skirts, BA XR Rear bar, BA Shifter Handle.

Soxx

The BBM is a much better manifold, however it will be a more complicated conversion as you need to change the ECU and add a few more wires.
You will also have to deal with the smartlock problem.

Rick.

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EFFalcon

well you don't *need* to change the ECU, it can be done with relays and rpm switch etc.

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1995 EF II Falcon GLi: Heritage Green, 4spd Auto, AUII 17" Rims, Custom BA Front Bar, Lowered, Gas Research LPG, Clear Indicators, JVC MP3 Headunit, Phoenix Gold 6.5" Splits, Coustic 481QE Amp, Clarion 12" sub, Leather Seats, Power Window Conversion, 3.45 LSD, Pacemaker Comp Extractors, 2.5" Exhaust, Mandrel Bent Intake, High Flow Filter, Wade 1004 110 cam.

In Progress: BA XR Side Skirts, BA XR Rear bar, BA Shifter Handle.

Soxx

If you want to do it properly, you do need to change ECU.
I also used an electronic rpm switch when I first swapped over to BBM, and whilst it worked, it didn't work as good as using the proper ECU.
The ECU doesn't just activate the VSV, it also changes the timing map.

Ignition timing will always be a compromise with the standard ECU, in part defeating the benefits of the BBM.

Rick.

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4L I6, naturally aspirated producing 173.5rwkw.
14.410 @ 96.49mph with street radials.
What's that?..... Did I hear you say TQE power?

Walkinshaw

your both 100% correct.

For out and out power/easier turbo/sc routing grab an ED manafold.
For drivable torque use an EF/L manafold

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Gunns

Thanks guys, I think I'll go the ED manifold for the moment. I would like to go the BBM route for the torque factor, but it just seems to be a lot of stuffing around to make the bbm work. Unless there is a easy way around the smart lock issue. I don't want to go putting smart lock in just so I can use a EF/L ecu.

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SmokedEB

You've been around Falcons to much John, "futura" plans ay

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MADNC_8

he only wishes he had one... instead of a GLi
least he has a luxury GLi, with leather and wood

psycho chicken

The extra torque is good in daily driving. However without the fuel/spark maps to match (from an EL ECU), it would be pointless.