What do ya recon of MK II cortina's - Page 2 - Ford Forums

MrNeil · 07-28-2003, 17:22

uh...wanna sell the old setup :p

68GT CORTINA · 07-29-2003, 03:37

Not realy, I have every intention of getting it running to my satisfaction at some stage, the best place for the superchargers is Jap somethingorother in adelade, get yourself a copy of parts peddelar and youll find two or three places that sell the blowers that all quote they are the cheapest, the bastards dont include freight in thier prices and after decideing to go with one place I was shocked they wanted $55 for freight another who sold the blower for $20 more only charged $20 for freight makeing them cheaper, so shop around and ask the freight charge(when it arrived the sticker said the freight for them had only been $18.50) dont pay the freight seperately as non buisnesses are charged horrificly. secondly as I say use old ac comp brakets modified to suit then with it all mounted up pop into a good exhaust shop tell them what you need and they should be able to do the rest the blower I got for $485 landed in cairns, the brakets were free I weled them and being cheap I had the plumbing done in mild steel instead of the stainless for $40, oh yes youll have to go to Enzed or Piratek to get some high pressure hose to join everything together you wont need much but it should be high pressure oil resistant reinforced these bits cost some $60 I got a bit more than I needed bettter too much than too little. You have to have the joiners there for the exhaust shop to do a proper job. Good luck Oh yea the SU go to any Brit spares or the dump Always a pommy wreck down there, a 1&3/4 inch would be tops

Prud · 07-31-2003, 05:00

Hey,

I've owned many MkI and MkII EsCortinas, and one things for certain - Sideways Motion! Once you get "adequate" horsepower, you'll find theres nothing better than just sliding through the corners and cursing the lack of wipers on the front door glass. These cars rock for their handling! Better than a Mini (almost as quick through the twisties, but you can do doughnuts!), and a helluva a lot better than any full-size 6 or V8.

For me, a Kent (Xflow) engine is like a Flathead V8. Look purty, period and all that guff, but you have to lean on them a fair bit just to get them going well. Have a look to England and you'll see Pintos, Cossies and Zetecs going in EsCortinas because, bang for buck, the Xflow cant keep up.

Hence the Toyota 2TGEU for me. Its keeping with the twincam 8v idea (BDAs, Lotus Cortinas were twink 8v), but at least theres the potential for serious horsepower. And it didn't cost me anything like a BDA or Lotus would. BTW, almost have the $$$ for the next step - the exciting one - shoving the 2TGEU in!

Every MkI/MkII EsCortina I've owned and driven regularly ended up with a Pinto under the bonnet. Quicker than a Xflow, much torquier, and without much effort could shred the tyres quite nicely. A bit of a cam and a decent exhaust and youre 3/4s the way there. Added bonus - the exhaust makes for a nice toe toaster in winter

Mr Neil - Xflows were 1100, 1300, 1500 and 1600. A 1600 can be stretched to around 1900cc, but the integrity of the block is rather compromised. The 2 Litre motor I think you're referring to is the Pinto. 2L, SOHC 8v - a YB Cosworth (Sierra Cosworth) is an uprated Pinto with a twink 16v head and turbo. Its easy to tell - the exhaust is on the passenger size for a Kent or Xflow, the drivers side for a Pinto. And they dont really look very similar at all.

If you want to fit a Pinto to your Cortina, you're going to have to mod the sump - Cortinas have the bulge at opposite ends to the bulge in Escorts/later Cortinas. MkIIs never had 2L standard. Aside from that its not too hard. Just get a complete donor car as everythings on the wrong side (loom, fuel, exhaust etc).

But the idea of supercharging a Pinto and a blow through carby (1ggze wont work as a suck through) is more than a tad crude. An alternative to an SU (Best and only carb for this by the way) is injection. Dont stress, its not that expensive. Use a Sierra Injection manifold on the Pinto, and a Camira Computer. For the exact details, have a look at www.osella.com.au, but a SOHC Camira is very similar in power and design to a Pinto. And the computers work really well, or so I'm told. Should be less than $500 for the manifold and around $300-400 for the computer (with pretty much everything you'll need). Then when you supercharge it, itll run a shed load better. It'll also look a lot more factory fitted too - good for when you're pulled over.

L8a,
Prud

gt69cortina · 03-04-2004, 00:53

ive owned 2 of them in my short life time, i love them, the one ive got nows a 2 door, please feel free to check it out at http://mycortina.bigpondhosting.com/

i only put the sperm in coz its pretty funny

cortinagt · 03-17-2004, 17:40

I own a Mk1 GT Race Car and have owned it since 1994. My old man has a 1966 GT MK1.

I have the crossflow motor in mine which works well for race track work, but there is no doubt the 2L has more power but also weighs a fair bit more.

BTW Prud im not aware of a 1500 Xflow kent motor. The original MK1 motors were 1200 and 1500 pre-crossflow.

Cheap bang for bucks a Pinto is the way to go but still needs a few minor mods to fit in a Cortina. A modified sump will be needed to clear the steering and crossmember.

As for cortinas handling nearly was well as a mini all I can say is pfffftt.
Cortinas can be set up to have as much mid corner speed and exit speed and will out brake a mini cause with only small wheels they have pissy little discs on the front.

gt69cortina · 03-18-2004, 00:05

yeah, from wat i no, the 1500 were all pre-xflow, never heard of a xflow one, but they do rev better than the crossflows anyway....easy mod......damn, i cant find the book, anyway, from memory, u use the 1600 crank with i think the 1600 conrods & u get an easy stroker,i think it takes the overall capacity up to just over 1650cc (please dont quote me) if u read & have red classicford mag for awhile, go through the back issues & ull find all u need to no

cortinagt · 03-18-2004, 14:46

Datsun 1600 solid steel crank is the best. Thats what all ther serious Group N Guys use.

needs a bit of machine work to crank and block to fit but wont break if you are in the habit of going over 7500 rpm hehehehe

1600 crank has 6 bolt flywheel too which is much stronger.

gt69cortina · 03-21-2004, 23:48

well.....it has been said that if u have enough money u can get a stroker 1600 kent motor, the poms get them 2 (apparently) 2.2 litres, however most people go the big bore option, not good!!! a standard block can be bored (usually) to 90 thou, thats it, the t19 & t20 blocks can be stretched to 180 thou......well im not sure how far they take them, but they fit 85mm pistons, i was thinking this option for a while, but they only get 220bhp, and thats a full race engine, not worth it for the price

cortinagt · 03-22-2004, 05:12

Dunno where they get 220hp from???

Some is pulling ya leg mate. A top dollar 2L pinto SOHC your are struggling much over 200bhp. Just one of those things. Add a cosworth head and/or turbo and its a different story.

Most top Group N (Historic) race motors put out 180ish hp. No one ever really tells anyone else what there motor is putting out if it is a comp motor.

Dont know about the maths involved but to get a 1600 out to 2200 you would have to stroke it out the top of the bonnet I reckon.

Only one thing that is being stroked by whoever is telling you this and thats not the motor mate.

As for Classic Ford Mag I am a huge fan but dont believe everything you read in print. Have quietly spotted a few errors in it over the years. But hey we are all human :)

gt69cortina · 03-22-2004, 14:15

yeah, i was wondering also how they get 2.2 litres from them, but i called nick stagg engineering & he told me straight out thats what he gets, ive also been in contact with dunnell motors, im tossing up between a 2 litre zetec or a 1600 zetec, the 2 litres they build get in excess of 280bhp (fly wheel of course) & the 1600 in excess of 225bhp, a little orange & blue escort down here gets 190hp at the wheels apparently, no doubt you have heard of it? owned by brett curran, it gets around a track faster than all the 6's & most of the 8's, but then in the sprints there isnt really long straights, he's using a 2 litre pinto, with a alloy head & i dont no what else (he keeps his cards close to his chest)