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Old 05-13-2004, 10:32   #1 (permalink)
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Alternative fuels

Since we've been getting into the alternative fuels recently, I thought it might be instructive to see who's played with what over the years, and what results they had?

I've been using home-made ethanol in the petrol farm equipment for a while. Stopped a few years ago when we moved and have been too busy to set up a new still. But I did notice the pumps etc seemed to use about the same amount as petrol, and produce similar power. Of course, it's a little hard to tell with a chainsaw, water pumps, etc though I could put the timing a lot further forwards on the ute.

Anybody else? How about liquid gas injection, that kind of thing?
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I've never tried anything yet, but I want to in the future. I was thinking methanol, but I dunno. I haven't put any research into it yet, but I want something with no harmful (environmentally) emissions and which I can produce myself renewably. I will have to look at ethanol too of course as from what you said, it's obviously something you can produce yourself.

definately an interesting area.
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I know a few people who run there blown ski boats on alcohol, but have not heard of anyone running it in a car.
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I would like to see anything on this mythical liquid gas injection. I hear the term thrown around a lot, but am yet to see even one piece of equipment.
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Re: Alternative fuels

Hey everyone.

On the Topic of Alternative fuels, i'm getting my EB II Fairmont with GT kit and aftermarket 17's fitted with LPG soon. Yes, ToranaGuy has a ford as well! Only bought it recently. The Torana was hit in the rear, and it's going to take ages to repair it. So i bought a EB Falcon. I've always liked most falcon's over commondoores.

I'm getting a vapor injection setup. Basically, the inlet manifold get's drilled to place 6 new injectors, my EB II is I6, and then they hook up a gas tank, mixer and regulator, plumb the reg to the injectors and fuel line, and stick in a computer that works in conjunction with the factory EFI ecu. It's pretty neat and tidy, and goes well.

The car will start on unleaded, then switch to lpg when the water temp is high enough. Usually about 30sec's to 1min before it switches over. I have a feeling it's possible to program it to switch over earlier. As soon as i can afford it, i'm going to buy the link cable and software so i can play with it, ermm i mean tune it :D The system isn't very well known to the public, not a hell of a lot of info online about it either. Parnell is the supplier and fitter, about $3k fitted, and almost 2 day's work. I've got a tech book on the kit here i've been reading, very interesting. Waiting time is about 3wks till i can get the car converted, so i better book it soon hey....

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I've heard a lot about LPG injection... but aint ever seen anyone selling it.
Any chance you can get us some more info? is it possible to run the car on straight lpg with this type of system?
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Greg, i have been looking into this for years, the Dutch have had this technoledgy around for a while.
I got some info from a Dutch website about 5 years ago.
There is also a few mobs in Australia who are playing around with it.
they claim up to 20% increase in HP, and economy, because of the timong you can run as the liquid LPG is far denser the liquid Petrol.
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