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Old 05-05-2002, 21:23   #1 (permalink)
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Does anyone have a supercharged or turboed windsor? Ya don't here much of them. Does anyone here have one?
You hear S/C help performance but no-one has one?
Is there drawbacks?
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Old 05-05-2002, 21:26   #2 (permalink)
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Grunter has a nice S/C Silver AU2 XR8.

Theres a couple of S/C sixes going around : ZEUS and Blownef6 I think.

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There are a couple of potential drawbacks

Clutches can be a problem with the manuals (see laminge)
Also the T5 can be another source for concern, although mine appears to be going strong. Just need to be a bit gentle.
Depending on your age and driving history, insurance can be a bit difficult.
If fuel economy is a concern, don't get one. It's not to bad with normal driving, but sink the boot in and it's nasty. :s5
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Old 05-07-2002, 07:54   #4 (permalink)
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how does does it go grunter?

got any figures?
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Old 05-18-2002, 07:39   #5 (permalink)
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I calibrated a Powerdyne blown 302 for a guy with an XW ute.
It had Edelbrock heads,ED Sprint/Cobra intake, the wrong camshaft,65mm t-body and the blower made a piddly 7lb....the powerdyne bracketry deflected so much it's no wonder it couldn't make 9lb!.
It achieved a best of 432hp @ 5600rpm and over 400lb/ft for more than 1500 rpm of the rev range.
Engine management was EECIV(of course) recaled with an EEC-Tuner, 30lb injectors and 70mm Ford Racing MAF. We tried an 80mm MAF but it actually made less power...likely due to the backflow inhibitor being in place still.

This was tuned on an Superflow 901 engine dyno that was operated in a very poor way. They had no way to keep the battery charged!!!??? and the wideband O2 was wobbling around in the dyno headers like a cock in a sock. So they kept complaining why the tests weren't repeatable!? Morons!

Anyway I suspect this little 302 will make around 500hp once in the car.

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There are a couple of potential drawbacks

Clutches can be a problem with the manuals (see laminge)
Also the T5 can be another source for concern, although mine appears to be going strong. Just need to be a bit gentle.
Depending on your age and driving history, insurance can be a bit difficult.
If fuel economy is a concern, don't get one. It's not to bad with normal driving, but sink the boot in and it's nasty. :s5
My T5 and clutch are also going strong and I have to say it probably comes down to driving the car smoothly given the power under the right foot. As for fuel economy, my NA 347 sucks juice around town like it's going out of style (over 20/100).
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A friend with a supercharged au1 xr8 had all sorts of problems.
The sheer flex in the engine on acceleration damaged all the pulleys and belts on the front of engine. Had to get extra bracing for engine. I think off memory that he did a couple of diffs. Blew a fuel line and caught on fire. Drank two litres of distilled water for a tank of fuel. It was all worth it to watch 247rwkw blow away the opposition on every occasion.
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A friend with a supercharged au1 xr8 had all sorts of problems.
The sheer flex in the engine on acceleration damaged all the pulleys and belts on the front of engine. Had to get extra bracing for engine. I think off memory that he did a couple of diffs. Blew a fuel line and caught on fire. Drank two litres of distilled water for a tank of fuel. It was all worth it to watch 247rwkw blow away the opposition on every occasion.
eek! :oo1:

I've only had one problem with the blower belt and that was when I missed a gear whilst on the track. Belt jumped forward one track and tore itself up. Was easily fixed by having a pulley, with a lip front and back, machined up. (and by me not missing gear changes :s3 )

As I've mentioned up top, I've had no driveline problems, but I do treat it with respect, while still giving it heaps. :s5

On the track my car drinks 2 litres of water through the water injection within 5 laps! Normal driving with the occasional "giving it some", I rarely need to fill it up more than once every 2 tanks of fuel.

And yep, it's more than worth it. :s2:
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Grunter,
Yeah, when I say all sorts of problems I must admit it all comes down to the original setup and how good a job they did. All up I think this cost upwards of 8-10grand.
How many km's have you done with supercharger on and whom did the job.

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