Problems with Turbocharging on gas? - Ford Forums - Mustang Forum, Ford Trucks, Ford Focus and Ford Cars
Ford Forum Ford Forum

» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
ยป Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   Ford Forums - Mustang Forum, Ford Trucks, Ford Focus and Ford Cars > The Garage - Tech Forums > Superchargers | Turbos | N2O
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Auto Loans Garage Mark Forums Read Auto Escrow

FordForums.com is the premier Ford Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-29-2003, 03:43   #1 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sunbury
Age: 35
Posts: 289
Problems with Turbocharging on gas?

Anyone else had problems with blowing head gaskets on there turbocharge gas vehicle, i don't seem to get anymore than about 10-20 thousand km's out of one before having to replace it. The car has been recently dyno tuned and according to the car its running spot on, but its full throttle mixtures are at 12 to 1, and in my book on gas thats a bit rich and would be making cylinder temperatures rather high.

I seem to get different information on gas from anyone i speak to, some say that it doesn't hurt an engine to run lean on gas, it apparent decreases cylinder temperature, some say you will destroy a motor if its to lean on gas, but the one thing they all say is if its too rich it will burn a piston out. But how rich is to rich? stoch is 15.5 to 1
EA Turbo Clone is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 10-29-2003, 04:15   #2 (permalink)
now with EF power!
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Rockhampton, QLD
Age: 28
Posts: 891
Re: Problems with Turbocharging on gas?

Too lean will cause your engine to explode (so i've heard)...not the best thing.
__________________
1994 EF Falcon.
(4.0 Auto)


Mods List:
Kenwood head deck, Rockford Fosgate Punch Sub and Punch Amp....and hubcaps!!



My Gallery!
Proud TQE Operator

Last edited by danege; 10-29-2003 at 04:17.
danege is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2003, 07:28   #3 (permalink)
Registered User
 
EVL-TE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: South Australia
Age: 32
Posts: 162
Re: Problems with Turbocharging on gas?

Try a copper head gasket if you're not already using one. they're reusable and a hell of a lot stronger than the standard ones. They just cost more thats all.
__________________
1988 EA Falcon Sedan
EB II 4.0L Engine Conversion
T5 Manual Trans
EB II 3.27:1 LSD
108.4rwkw
:td:

If they had black box recorders in Commodores, the final words would be "watch this bro!"
EVL-TE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2003, 13:19   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sunbury
Age: 35
Posts: 289
Re: Problems with Turbocharging on gas?

Good idea, but i would rather get rid of the reason it is blowing the head gasket, than mask up the problem by using a better head gasket.

With a normal head gasket it will break normally before a piston will, last time i put a better gasket on it didn't break and all six pistons did.
EA Turbo Clone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2003, 16:36   #5 (permalink)
100 SPEED LIMITED SILVAEA
 
gm dstroya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: gold coast and off playing with 32psi of boost pumping into 4.1lt of pure ohc feralness and developing a 350hp n/a kit for ea-au i6, also making 5.0lt gear soon enuf
Posts: 1,043
Re: Problems with Turbocharging on gas?

run a acl race series one, they have thicker firing rings on them and are made out of a good graphite material.

is ur motor o-ringed?

if not ur best off getting it done to the block, as the falcon heads are a bit soft and suffer resession when o-ringed and fully torqued down

so have the block o-ringed and install a race series gasket.

gasket will still break but will take a bit more to blow it out.

as for the gas fueling... i'd say drop gas reserach astralia a e-mail or call them and discuss some options.

cheers.joe.
__________________
live in S.E. queensland? bit of a revhead? click here!!--> speedphreaks

1000hp is underway. rods,pistons here!! t88 on its way!!
gm dstroya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2003, 15:08   #6 (permalink)
Slurry Boostin
 
TTNOS8's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Lake Entrant, near Bendale
Age: 32
Posts: 1,211
Re: Problems with Turbocharging on gas?

How much boost are you running?

How does the car actually run?

I'm only running small boost and haven't done the kms you have, but have drove the piss out of it, alloy head, ohc, and it loves it!

The only thing is that we had our mixture a lot leaner under power.
TTNOS8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2003, 16:17   #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sunbury
Age: 35
Posts: 289
Re: Problems with Turbocharging on gas?

10PSI at the moment, and the engine runs great, nice smooth, plenty of power. The head is already O'ringed.
EA Turbo Clone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2003, 18:01   #8 (permalink)
Bourbon powered V8
 
JC-XR8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Canberra, Australia.
Posts: 4,787
Re: Problems with Turbocharging on gas?

Try ringing this guy:

Dave Elliott of Gas Tune in Canberra (02) 6293 9033.

He might/should be able to help with the answers to your questions - just don't tie him up for hours at a time when there's no way he can bill you for the time spent on the phone.
__________________
__________________________


AU1 XR8 Auto 147.9 rwkw (approx 215 fwkw)

AU2 Wagon HAD Auto
17s, Pacemakers, 3" Intake & Pod filter (The Family Hack)

Member of:
FPV-XR Club ACT
AUFalcon.com
ATPS (honorary)
JC-XR8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2003, 03:38   #9 (permalink)
Two SC 61's = trouble
 
ebxr8240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Penrith,nswAus/Morrinville.NZ
Age: 61
Posts: 6,360
Re: Problems with Turbocharging on gas?

Fix the problem as inlower compression,more retard timing or richer/ correct mixture.Otherwise it WILL keep blowing gasgets!!! Thicker gasget may solve the compression but keep in mind you are loosing your quench area and will loose power..If it's blowing gasgets something is out of tune and the rest of the engine will follow..It's obvously detonating at some point...?? If std eec[tune] there maybe too much advance in mid range where boost is realy working for you...
__________________
Don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic!
.
Tuned & maintained by "Peppertree Perfmormance". Dart block, Scat 4340 steel crank, Custom C.P pistons.Oliver rods.. Mal Wood twin plate clutch.. Twin SC61/2's,482 rwkw/ 645 rwhp..
Passengers, myocardial infarction material..
R.I.P Possum...
ebxr8240 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2003, 03:58   #10 (permalink)
Looking in YOUR bathroom.
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Adelaide
Age: 31
Posts: 3,287
Re: Problems with Turbocharging on gas?

look for uni chip, or even resort to mech advanced dizzy that can be set easly.
__________________
Ive been described as a vault of usless random knowledge.

Ill take it as a complement i think.............
Walkinshaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Ford Forums - Mustang Forum, Ford Trucks, Ford Focus and Ford Cars > The Garage - Tech Forums > Superchargers | Turbos | N2O



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ford's experiences problems with new diesel; 6.0 Power Stroke is important test Stacy94PGT Diesel Tech 0 03-04-2003 05:32
Quality problems bedevil Jaguar's X-Type Stacy94PGT Ford Worldwide News 1 05-29-2002 21:19
Ford blames its suppliers for quality problems, demands improvement Stacy94PGT Ford Worldwide News 0 05-28-2002 08:58
2 New Problems...maybe related Davidoo Ford Probe Forum | Mazda MX6 Forum 7 12-17-2001 18:23

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:57.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.