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Old 09-09-2003, 22:44   #1 (permalink)
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Car Just Stoped & Theres No Spark HELP!

My car was at idle and decided to just stop First thing i checked was if there was spark which there waznt, I traced it back to the coil. After renewing the coil there is still no spark So i went out and got a TFI module and grrrrr still no spark

The coil is getting power but not sparking Im going to try a diffrent computer next is there anyone out there who knows wots goin on?
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Re: Car Just Stoped & Theres No Spark HELP!

Check that distributor rotor is turning in case the dizzie drive is stripped.
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Re: Car Just Stoped & Theres No Spark HELP!

Could possibly also be the pickup in the dizzy too, sometimes when the TFI goes, it can destroy the pickup.
Best thing to do is try another complete dizzy if you can get hold of one,

Another thing is to check all connectors around the dizzy and coil, and the ones from the vehicle harness to the engine harness, seeing as things have been a bit wet here lately, you may have some water in one of them.

If it was the ECU, it would still start as the TFI will detect there is no SPOUT signal from the ecu, and generate its own using the PIP signal.
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Re: Car Just Stoped & Theres No Spark HELP!

aah right umm but would the coil still spark if the dizzy had a prob ?

So trying a diff ECU wont do much then?
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Re: Car Just Stoped & Theres No Spark HELP!

No, if the pickup in the dizzy is faulty, you will not get any spark at all.
I would try the dizzy 1st, and failing that, then try the ecu, but unless the ecu got water in it, its not very likely it has failed (possible, but not common)
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oh yeah cheers man just gettin hold of a dizzy now, they easy to remove and install
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Re: Car Just Stoped & Theres No Spark HELP!

The other thing I've had trouble with a few times is that the little pins will occasionally pull backwards out of the coil plug, so that although you can measure power there, it's not getting to the coil.
How about the little pink wire from the dizzy up to the manifold loom?
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Re: Car Just Stoped & Theres No Spark HELP!

Same thing wrong with SPHELL's car except there's spark from the coil to the distributor, but nothing leaves the distributor. Trying the distributor on the weekend.

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hmmm more things to check...
Havent followed that pink wire past the dizzy yet but that just ends up in your ECU dosent it?

I've heard the dizzy's a bit of a u know wot to remove any tips?
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If theres spark at the dizzy but not past it, its a weird one....
It could be possible that the TFI is buggered and is delaying the spark so its firing between posts, or the pin has sheared and the dizzy gear has slightly spun on the shaft (this does happen) and the rotor will still turn, just not in the right position to the rest of the engine.
Alternatively could be carbon tracking in the cap or rotor.

Sim, turn the engine by hand and line up the TDC mark on the balancer with the mark on the timing cover (provided the balancer isnt rooted)
and take the dizzy cap off.
The rotor will either be facing #1 lead or #6 lead.
If its on #6, keep turning the motor another 360* so the rotor is facing #1.
In the dizzy there is a plastic cap beneath the rotor that has 2 marks, start and finish, so the rotor should be lined up with the finish mark.

remove the retainer bolt, and pull the dizzy upwards, you may need to twist and turn it to get it out.

To put the other in, hold the dizzy in your hand and turn the rotor to the start mark, then slowly lower it into the block, and turn it a bit to get it in, and once seated properly, the rotor should again be facing the finish mark.
Be aware that you need to get the oil pump drive in too, so if it doesnt go 1st off, your rotor should be nearly facing the finish mark, get someone to turn the engine (by hand or by key) while you push down slightly on the dizzy, then it should drop in.

Keep turning the motor 720* until the tdc mark lines up again, and then line up the rotor with the finish mark, and install the retainer bolt and lock it up there.

See if it starts, if it does, then set the base timing etc..

Hope this helps - otherwise there are diagrams etc in the grerorys r max ellerys books that will explain it a bit better.
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