Power Windows. - Ford Forums - Mustang Forum, Ford Trucks, Ford Focus and Ford Cars
Ford Forum Ford Forum

» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   Ford Forums - Mustang Forum, Ford Trucks, Ford Focus and Ford Cars > The Garage - Tech Forums > Interior | Electrical | ECU
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Auto Loans Garage Mark Forums Read Auto Escrow

FordForums.com is the premier Ford Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-15-2003, 08:05   #1 (permalink)
EF & ZH owner
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Wollongong
Age: 30
Posts: 620
Power Windows.

hey guys,

my passanger side power window has once again had the d*ck. This time it wont wind up at all. So I took the door skin off and it revealed that a cable had snapped i guess which has something to do with winding the window up and down? So ive got it up finally but it wont stay.

has this happend to anyone and do u know how much it costs to fix and whats actually wrong with it??

cheers, rob
__________________
http://www.xchasr.xs3.com

EF2 Futura - 2.5" zorst - K&N Filter - 3" intake - xr8 CAI - Wade 1004-14 Cam - Pacemaker PH4480 xtractors - 15" stockies

77 ZH Fairlane 500 - 302clevo - straight lpg - 12 slotters


God bless the lord, Henry Ford.
XCHASR is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-15-2003, 10:20   #2 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 27 00S 153 07E
Posts: 1,944
Check out our good mates at:

http://www.fordmods.com/

has all the details there.
__________________
"I married Miss Right. I just didn't know her first name was Always."
TopGhia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2003, 04:08   #3 (permalink)
XR8 XR6 Club of Victoria
 
Muzza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 272
Electric window

Sounds like you need a new regulator.
The regulator assembly is not repairable unfortunately.
The unit is around $200.
Don't bother getting one from the wreckers as they generally charge $120 to $175 and may not last.

They are not hard to change over. The most difficult bit is the pop rivets that secure the motor unit and bolting up one of the motor mount flanges.
Use a hammer to gently tap the pin in the middle of the rivet into the inside of the door. Then use a 1/4" drill bit to drill out the rivet.
Use 5mm or 6mm bolts (10 or 12 mm long) and nuts (nuts should be nylock or shake-proof types) to secure the new assembly.
Note that one of the flanges is very close to the motor. I bend this one outwards, insert one of the bolts through and bend the flange back. The thread ends up coming through the door panel and there is enough room behind the flange to insert a spanner.

Rivets are much easier is you could borrow the correct size rivetter. New pop rivets are available from Ford spares (@ $1 each) but one would need a 1/4" rivetter and these cost $80 for an el-cheapo and around $200-$300 for a good tool.

I've done a few of these and it takes about 30 minutes to do the job.
__________________
The XR family ---->
Muzza: a XR8 AU seriesIII...bog standard :)
TBH: (the better half) drives an ED XR6 wagon (Mock Dev 4 160rwkw, JMM extractors, 4 electric windows, Ghia door panels in XR trim, rear head & arm rests in XR trim, Momo s/wheel with Cruise, EL thermos, EBGT wheels, etc) things to come soon = EECV upgrade.
Muzza is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2003, 16:13   #4 (permalink)
EF & ZH owner
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Wollongong
Age: 30
Posts: 620
yeah, got told it was the regulator yesterday as well. how do they actually work? I can pull my window up but it just falls down with vibrations and bumps in the road.
__________________
http://www.xchasr.xs3.com

EF2 Futura - 2.5" zorst - K&N Filter - 3" intake - xr8 CAI - Wade 1004-14 Cam - Pacemaker PH4480 xtractors - 15" stockies

77 ZH Fairlane 500 - 302clevo - straight lpg - 12 slotters


God bless the lord, Henry Ford.
XCHASR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2003, 18:15   #5 (permalink)
Bourbon powered V8
 
JC-XR8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Canberra, Australia.
Posts: 4,787
What you need is.....gaffer tape/duct tape/100mph tape.
__________________
__________________________


AU1 XR8 Auto 147.9 rwkw (approx 215 fwkw)

AU2 Wagon HAD Auto
17s, Pacemakers, 3" Intake & Pod filter (The Family Hack)

Member of:
FPV-XR Club ACT
AUFalcon.com
ATPS (honorary)
JC-XR8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2003, 01:02   #6 (permalink)
XR8 XR6 Club of Victoria
 
Muzza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 272
Falling window

The reason your window is falling:-

The glass is attached to a slide that slides up and down a guide.
The slide has each end of the cable connected and these cables are routed to each end of the guide.
From the ends of the guide the cables go to a motor assembly via flexible sheaves.
The cable is wrapped around a drum in the motor assembly.
The motor rotates the drum which pulls the cable around which in turn raises or lowers the slide (to which the glass is attached.

Because of the gearing between the drum and the electric motor the drum will not rotate due to pressure from the cable.
The window stays up or down because of this.

Your cable is broken hence the slide can just freely move up and down the guide resulting in glass down.

As JCV8 suggested - use gaffer tape to hold the glass up until you wack in a new regulator.

Strange - it's usually the clutch in the drum assembly that goes crook.
__________________
The XR family ---->
Muzza: a XR8 AU seriesIII...bog standard :)
TBH: (the better half) drives an ED XR6 wagon (Mock Dev 4 160rwkw, JMM extractors, 4 electric windows, Ghia door panels in XR trim, rear head & arm rests in XR trim, Momo s/wheel with Cruise, EL thermos, EBGT wheels, etc) things to come soon = EECV upgrade.
Muzza is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2003, 04:56   #7 (permalink)
EF & ZH owner
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Wollongong
Age: 30
Posts: 620
Tongue

thanks for that response, youve been a great help. as for the duck tape, ive used a cd case instead. lol ill get it looked at and priced on the weekend.

thanks again.

cheers, rob
__________________
http://www.xchasr.xs3.com

EF2 Futura - 2.5" zorst - K&N Filter - 3" intake - xr8 CAI - Wade 1004-14 Cam - Pacemaker PH4480 xtractors - 15" stockies

77 ZH Fairlane 500 - 302clevo - straight lpg - 12 slotters


God bless the lord, Henry Ford.
XCHASR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2003, 06:12   #8 (permalink)
EF & ZH owner
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Wollongong
Age: 30
Posts: 620
got it fixed.

$290 later.. :(
__________________
http://www.xchasr.xs3.com

EF2 Futura - 2.5" zorst - K&N Filter - 3" intake - xr8 CAI - Wade 1004-14 Cam - Pacemaker PH4480 xtractors - 15" stockies

77 ZH Fairlane 500 - 302clevo - straight lpg - 12 slotters


God bless the lord, Henry Ford.
XCHASR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2003, 07:15   #9 (permalink)
Stoked Ford Owner!
 
kryzak260's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: East Gippsland, Victoria
Posts: 126
I had to do the same thing on my EL drivers door this week. somewhere in the drive was shagged.

Muzza, what clutch are you talking about? As far as i know, there isnt a clutch in there, because if you hold down the button when the window has finished its travel, the motor sits at stall current.
__________________
'98 EL Futura Sapphire 4.0L I6 - Alpine CDA-9815 HU - Nothing else yet
kryzak260 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2003, 00:32   #10 (permalink)
Classic Capri Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Age: 40
Posts: 153
I had the same thing on my ED fairmont ghia. I fixed it my self with a push bike brake cable (Inner and Outer). You just have to have patience and pull the regulator apart carefully and work out how much cable you need. Etc. Cost me $5.00 and about 2 hours.

The window will not wind up and down because of the screw (worm) gear on the motor to the drum. If that makes any sense.
IRPACAUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Ford Forums - Mustang Forum, Ford Trucks, Ford Focus and Ford Cars > The Garage - Tech Forums > Interior | Electrical | ECU



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
EA non power windows pup E-Series Falcons 1 03-18-2003 00:51
2003 Ford F-350 Power Stroke Stacy94PGT Ford Worldwide News 1 11-04-2002 14:31
Ford F-series Super Duty Gives Customers Power And Style RPO83 Ford Worldwide News 0 10-09-2002 00:02
Ballard Power Systems and Ford Power Products Unveil the World's First Hydrogen Gener Stacy94PGT Ford Worldwide News 0 08-07-2002 10:41
power windows. Walkinshaw General Tech 5 05-16-2002 18:17

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:23.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.