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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 07-27-03, 02:39 AM Thread Starter
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window winders....

my front 2 window winders are bout to break soon as it takes 2 arms to operate now! i was wondering how to replace them, there looks like pop rivets in there? can u get new regulators from ford still. the shaft that sticks out wobbles around bout 15mm side to side!!

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Re: window winders....

They aren't pop rivets, some sort of weird headless bolt. You can either cut a slot in the head and use a big flathead screwdriver, or just cut them off and replace with a sensible design (what I did)

Damn, sounds like they're pretty rooted! :)
You can probably get new ones from Ford, but I suggest s/hand ones out of an ED will last you for many years, just make sure to test them first...

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well unless sunny sells me some, ill go have a look at the wreckers tommorrow.
the glass feels tight in the guides too, would these need replacing? should i try and get the whole system from the front door

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Yes they are pop rivets

The pop rivets holding the winders in are actually pop rivets.
They are called a trifold or multi-grip dependant on manufacturer.
The mandrel cuts the body of the rivet into three sections as it is drawn in by the rivet tool.

The rivets used on the doors are 6.4mm (1/4") and only source for small quantities (3 or 6 or so) is Ford spares.
Normally, smallest quantity from fastener distributors is 100.
(about $1.00 ea from Ford and about 25c ea in qty of 100).

The only real issue is the pop-rivetter itself as tools that would do 1/4" rivets are usually priced in the $100s of dollars.
Total Tools did have a large handle type rivetter for around $55 and these were OK for this type of task but they seemed to have run out of stock in most of their stores.

To get a quantity of these rivets contact Textron (Rowville), ask for Ford door rivets, they will advise the partnumber, they will advise of a distributer in your area, contact the distributer and order the rivets thru them.

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Re: window winders....

The winders in my AU1 are rooted too, and just recently the window has been getting jammed on the way up, will have it fixed at the next service.

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Re: window winders....

My EA has had troubles with the drivers window since i got it about 9months ago.

Gets 3/4 the way up and sticks.. back off and go again fine. Its just the glass not being held properly at the bottom.

Check to see if the glass is solid in the holder at the bottom (the scissor thing), coz if its loose, the window will move up at an angle and jam causing extra effort to move.
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Re: window winders....

with the pop rivits i had them too and they confused the fuk outta me. i just got rid of em and whacked in the proper size nut an bolt to fiz the problem, very easy solution, picked them up at bunnings real cheap!

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You can still buy them new from ford. What you are after is a 'Window Winder Regulator'. I think from memory they are about $70ish each, so they're not cheap (but it could be worse - you could have electric windows!)

If it was me, though, I'd be just going for some new ones as there's no guarantee that one you get s/h won't do the same thing after a couple of months.

As for the rivets, the easiest way (unless you have one big-ass pop riveter!) is to just drill them out and use some short bolts.
I used nyloc nuts too - just to be safe.


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Re: window winders....

I did the same thing, drilled out those stupid things and used bolts. Should have seen how the wrecker got the regulator out..... angle grinder and a cold chisel. I walked out of there with half the friggen door attached to the regulator!!

Matt you need some regulators?

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yeah reg and possibly the glass tray thing at the bottom, but not for a few weeks, or till it breaks yet. i hate opening up the door trims!

i just got started on my 351 so no more spending on the ea for a while :)

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