Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sunny Melbourne, Victoria
Re: Bara Engine and AWD
I can say there's next to no chance of Diesel being released in the Territory. The design of the vehicle is not of an extreme stump pulling torquey monster Diesel 4x4 like a Cruiser, it's a crossover of a number of vehicles as you'd have heard multiple times. It has real handling, looks good and stil doesn't end up using the fuel of the Cruiser. As for a torque engine curve, it's idenctical to the Barra 182 in the Falcon. I know you'd be more interested in the loss through the converter (which splits drive 62% rear and 38% front) to the wheels but that I'm not sure on that myself. Assume similar to the Falcon if not identical and if it is indeed only slightly different it'll be plenty enough to cope. Having driven the Territory all day today at the official launch you'll have no worries hauling an 1800kg boat, those Territorys realy haul arse when they get going. The bonus is you've still got Falcon pulling power but with the AWD for the boat ramps which you'd understand pretty clearly as a benefit.
As for the 5/6 speed auto rumours, if people bought cars based upon that then nobody would buy a car because they'd constantly be waiting for something better. I don't think they will seriously be even considering the 5 or 6 speed auto anytime soon, I may be wrong but they wouldn't invest this heavily in tooling etc only to go changing it all in less than 5 months time come Sydney Motor Show or thereabouts. Buy the vehicle based on what it can do, not upon what a model in 2 years might be able to do, knowing very well that if you wait 5 years obviuosly you'll get a more advanced vehicle no matter what brand you buy thanks to market progression. The Territory currently has received rave reviews, and based upon that, your own drive and evaluation tomorrow it should give you the gut feeling or strong indication as to why is works best for you right now. Resale will be fantastic on these, considering how popular they'll be.
Considering your fuel bill, the Kluger is max rated to 1500kg so that's off the towing list, the Adventra is a V8 only so bye bye to a good fuel bill there, forgetting the fact that it is totally outclassed by the Territory according to Wheels magazine and the other wagons such as the Pajero and Crusier aren't exactly the Service Station Owner's long lost cousin!!! The money you'll save on a Ghia AWD over a Cruiser Diesel in Fuel over even 5 or 6 years will still offset your purchase on top of you getting a smaller sportier vehicle that still suits 5-7 people comfortably and is easier to drive, park, handles better and looks sensational!!!
Enjoy your test-drive and let us all know how it goes!!! As a Saleperson I value having people like yourself posting here because it helps us learn what sort of things we can do our homework on to make sure we can answer all your questions and help you realise whether or not the Territory is the right vehicle for you... the more I learn about it the more it seems like the vehicle for more than just a handful of people!!
2002 Ford Focus Zetec - Machine Silver - 3 door
2 1/4 inch Cat-Back Exhaust, 40mm KW Lowering Springs, K&N Panel Filter, ST170 Indicators, Zetec Floor Mats, Darkest Legal Tint, Genuine 15 Rear Wheel kW FPV Sticker
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