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Old 10-18-2004, 04:08   #1 (permalink)
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Downhill Descent Control

A few questions... If thats ok of course...

- Is this designed for Off Road use only ? or can it be used when driving tarmac Twisty downhill stuff as well ? (thought it had max speed of 10kph?)

- Is it a worthy addition, has it been useful to the guys that have taken it 'off road'? (Organza?)


Thanks for your help!

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Old 10-18-2004, 04:47   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Downhill Descent Control

Welcome Martyvan75,
It was intended for steep slippery road usage only. It will work on any surface (assuming it can get enough grip) in forward or reverse. Default speed is 5kph and you can use cruise control buttons on the steering wheel to reduce speed (min 4kph) or increase. If you use the accelerator you can get an extra 5kph or so above the cruise button limit. Brake lights DO activate when system is functioning.

That enough info?
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Old 10-18-2004, 05:31   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Downhill Descent Control

From Wheels Special Edition - Fordterritory;

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.....the Territory AWD driver can use the steering wheel-mounted cruise control buttons to adjust speed in 1km/h increments, from the minimum of 4km.h to a maximum of 25km/h.This means you can exactly tailor speed to suit the steepness and smoothness of any slope. The selected speed remains constant until the driver disengages the HDC or presses the brake pedal.
The system allows acceleration up to 90km/h. While the driver accelerates, HDC switches to standby mode. When the throttle pedal is released, the system resumes the set speed. HDC automatically switches of above 90km/h. For drivers who plan to exploit the Territory's all-road ability to the full, this smarter-than-average HDC system is a must.
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Old 10-18-2004, 07:25   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Hill Descent Control (HDC)

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Is it a worthy addition, has it been useful to the guys that have taken it 'off road'?
It is an $865 option on all the AWD models so I guess the price is the first consideration.

You can use it going forward down a slope and you can use it going backwards, back down a hill, if you need to retrace your steps because you didn't make it up the hill in the first place.

Obviously, the most common use will be to clamber down a steep hill especially a rocky or slippery slope. Functionally, it couldn't be easier to use. Click the button on the LHS of the steering wheel for a second or two and the HDC light illuminates on the dash. The car is automatically set at 4km/h and you can release the brakes and accelerator (assuming you are already pointed down the hill).

The car moves to the 4km/h speed and suddenly you start feeling individual wheels braking as you clamber down the hill. At first it seems a bit harsh and noisy, but you soon get used to it .... you realise the HDC is utilising the other systems involved (traction control and the ABS) to detect wheel slip and speed to brake the wheels and maintain the desired speed down the hill.

As a driver, at this point, you have no feet on either brake or accelerator, merely concentrating on steering the car down the slope through rocks, dips or mud as appropriate.

4km/h doesn't sound like much, and I guess it isn't, but down a rocky slope like the jump-up I mentioned when getting to Chambers Pillar .... you realise it's plenty of speed to maintain control and steering. On a less rocky slope you can speed up the car, as johny and Territory have mentioned, by using the steering wheel cruise buttons to increase speed to a comfortable level.

The thing that I reckon is quite innovative, I found out by accident. At the bottom of the hill you can use the accelerator and the system temporarily switches off until you let go of the accelerator again and the system reengages at the previously set speed (say 4km/h).

This is great when you come down one hill then reach a plateau, for instance, before reaching another down hill section and progressing down that.

The system also stays in the standby mode when you accelerate above 35km/h and switches off when you exceed 90km/h. Of course, you can turn it off via the dash switch as well at any time.

Given the car does not have a low range transfer case, the addition of HDC along with the standard traction control, ABS and Dynamic Stability Control give you four "developed for Australia" electronic systems that do a great job which in the past were handled by mechanical systems (low range, diff locks etc). If you have a copy of the special edition Wheels magazine did on the development of the Territory --- you will know all about this and how it was developed in the Flinders Ranges and places like Sweden.

If you haven't got a copy of that magazine -- go see your Dealer for a copy. It's fascinating stuff.

You are not going to use the HDC a lot, but when you do, you will find it an extremely effective system that gives you a hefty extra margin of safety and control.

I'd certainly recommend it to prospective owners.
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Re: Downhill Descent Control

this feature is found on Land Rovers, and the dealers make sure the system is turned off when they take it on the test track because it is really steep (like 50 degrees or something) and that's in low range - so maybe its only for tame stuff
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this feature is found on Land Rovers, and the dealers make sure the system is turned off when they take it on the test track because it is really steep (like 50 degrees or something) and that's in low range - so maybe its only for tame stuff
Magazine test drives have stated that the Territory HDC is one of the best around.
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Re: Downhill Descent Control

I haven't used mine yet but gave it a go on the road test Ghia.

It works a treat and I considered it a must have option when ordering. Even if you only use it once to safely get out of somewhere that's steeper than you thought you'll consider it money well spent.

You have traction control to get you up those slippery slopes so this is the best way down.
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Old 10-19-2004, 04:07   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Downhill Descent Control

Thank you for all of your help guys....

Thats one option box that is certainly being ticked :)

As you have said Raptor.. if you only use it once... it might just save you thousands............!!

Thank you once again....

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Old 12-29-2004, 19:58   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Downhill Descent Control

Can anyone explain why it is a factory only option?
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Old 12-30-2004, 02:33   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Downhill Descent Control

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Can anyone explain why it is a factory only option?
well I could never explain all the nitty gritty ... but the HDC is a fundamentally built in feature that would combine the HDC pump unit, some software changes to the ECU, different wiring looms and probably plenty of other things ... that I have no idea about.

It's a bit like the 3rd row seat I guess .... it involves a hell of a lot of structural and build changes that mean it is just plain uneconomic, if not physically impossible, to put it in the car after the fact.

I'm sure some others may have a more intimate knowledge on this little poser.
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