IPhido

Link here

And its not all that favourable..

The Adventra conked out, the territory's 4wd became disabled but was still drivable, kluger, pajero, Landcruiser all made it.

They seemed very negitive against the territory. Low clearance, weak 4wd system, lack of a tow hook, and tailgate related issues.

Seems like a real off road version of the territory would be worthwhile, with hi ride suspension, a LSD out back (providing that the center diff can still send power out the back).

pauljh74

That's DRIVE for you - at least they didn't give a glowing review to the Holden either - which is what they usually do.

When the BA went up against the VY - DRIVE were about the only journalists who didn't give the BA a clear victory - they highlighted the fuel consumption issue. With the Territory they at least offered it would probably outdo the Kluger on the road.

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Curls

If you were doing serious rock hopping you would buy a basic Patrol or Landcruiser to avoid panel damage and keep your weight down, which is not the market the Territory is aimed at nor what a buyer with such intentions should be choosing. And the Kluger is not a first generation model (although new to Oz) so future model varities of the T are yet to come such as increased ride height or maybe even an electronic ride height control for those river crossings.

Curls

Re Drive, I'm actually more pissed off with Graham Smith's reference to Ford electronics in older cars. He conveniently doesn't mention he was a former Holden employee and in one reply (past editon) to advice required on a suitable towing car (6 cyl only) suggested the Commodore over the Falcon yet forgot to include the greater power and torque of the Falcon 6, its better gearbox, far greater body strength not requiring as much rear bracing for heavy towing.etc... and still suggested the Commy..even a knuckle dragging, Holden badge loving, cage dwelling monkey would know that for durability and ease of towing a properly set up Falcon is by far the best choice if not shopping for larger cars.

chevypower

It's not surprising though, the Territory was never designed to be a true off-roader, yet still weighs only a couple hundred kilograms lighter than a Landcruiser, while being a lot smaller, less powerful and less capable. Fuel economy wasn't a HUGE difference either - maybe the 4.11:1 diff in the territory is responsible for that, i believe the Cruiser has a 3.73 with a 5 spd auto, the Kluger was probably a more appropriate weight for a cross over, and they probably prefered that.

IPhido

Interesting that drive got reasonable fuel economy from the Territory..

16.66 L per 100 for the territory, behind the Kluger 14.97, but infront of the Adventra 17.86, pajero 18.93 and the land cruiser 23.06. I think that is good news, fuel economy was one of the media worries with the territory.. Territory travelled more Km as well, 600Km more than the Kluger... Territory was the 2nd heaviest after the Land cruiser.

Drive have basically told us that non of the soft roaders are very good at hardcore, climb a rocky outcrop 4wding.. Territory biggest problem seems to be low clearance which is understandable, concidering how much better on road it is than the others..

Curls

Cruiser 4.7 V8 has 170Kw and 410Nm so it out torques the rest but is down 12 kw on Territory I6 (if back page of Wheels is correct) while Kluger 3.3 V6 is listed at 172 kw, which is more then Cruiser and probably shows it could put out alot more if set up that way.

bossxr8

The Territory is a similar size to the Landcruiser also, in terms of length and width although not as tall.

RAPTOR

Not as tall but makes better use of the internal space as it isn't hiding a massive truck frame under the floor.

Blurter

Yeah saw the article as well but c'mon who reads Drive without a big smile on their face, we are talking about Joshua Dowling after all.