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Aussie Pete · 05-07-2003, 20:43

Well, Ford has basically said there wasn't going to be a V8 territory. And it looks like they're right. As hinted by GP the V8 won't allow fitment of all ancillaries along with the 4WD drivetrain.

When you look at a V8 equipped BA you can see what they mean - the engine is very wide and with the heads and block interface, exhaust etc the amount of room alongside the engine is next to zero.

Well, from my previous work life I have a contact who is involved in shipping cars of sometimes sensitive nature. He tipped me off and lo and behold a car comes through the cargo shipping area in a wooden box (sitting on a steel cradle) for freighting to Dearborn. Access was cramped but I tell you this vehicle had a group of five header pipes on the LEFT of the vehicle visible on the underside (hard to see due to the steel cradle and the tie down straps). Also, the sump well was almost at the very front of the car suggesting a very long engine (the driveshafts ran BEHIND the sump).

Unfortunately like I said access was very hard and light very poor. But it makes me wonder - what links up five and a very long engine?

I reckon for packaging this has to be a V10. No doubts. Thinking about it the V10 is a narrower engine and length isn't an issue because the six fits. Plus it has the torque and ability to pull long gearing that may provide the market necessities of torque and economy????

Holy schmoly - maybe this is the link from those 'Barras' that some people swear they saw wioth V10s.

JR and Sparkles may have to eat humble pie if this all adds up!

Mr Sparkle · 05-07-2003, 20:55

Yeah I spoke to him too, he said it was parked next to the crate containing the Fairmont Ghia Boss 290 wagon...

LunaticSVT · 05-07-2003, 20:56

who says it is not a 5 Cylinder? Volvo a division of Ford has an engine that is a 5 cylinder. Now that would explain the 5 pipes you saw.

Currently the XC90 has a 2.5-liter turbocharged 5-cylinder engine that is able to produce 208 hp at 5000 rpm and 236 lb-ft of torque at 1500rpm.

They also have the V70 T5 with a high-pressure 2.3-liter turbocharged 5-cylinder with 247 hp at 5200 rpm and 243 lb-ft of torque at 2400.

And if i remember correct both are a DOHC I-5 setup.

Just some water on that fire you are starting.

Donut King · 05-07-2003, 20:56

Whatever happened to the plans for the upside-down engine?

Aussie Pete · 05-07-2003, 20:57

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Originally posted by Mr Sparkle
Yeah I spoke to him too, he said it was parked next to the crate containing the Fairmont Ghia Boss 290 wagon...

Mate. Get your butt down here because there's people sticking their head under the front wall of the crate all the time. It's just sitting there! I think it's on a flight later this arvo.

LunaticSVT · 05-07-2003, 20:58

all i can say is take pics. That will disspell the rumors and issues.

JR · 05-07-2003, 20:59

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Originally posted by Mr Sparkle
Yeah I spoke to him too, he said it was parked next to the crate containing the Fairmont Ghia Boss 290 wagon...

He tipped me off to the R5 Dual Cab 4WD ute Sparkles - he's really good with the secrets...

Pete, let me know the name of your dealer - I want some of that Crack you're smoking!

Aussie Pete · 05-07-2003, 21:00

Having a think about it, maybe it's a LHD six and they've simply mirrored the top of the engine or something. I'm confused.

Aussie Pete · 05-07-2003, 21:03

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Originally posted by LunaticSVT
all i can say is take pics. That will disspell the rumors and issues.

Well, as usual Ford have made this next to impossible. The steel cradle runs almost entirely under the car and it is covered in a wooden box with a slot at the front and rear lower ends. That's why with much effort you can just get a glimpse under the front corner of the car.

Anyhow, I don't give a damn what anyone thinks.

Martin · 05-07-2003, 21:15

A Diesel perhaps?