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Old 11-25-2004, 05:15   #81 (permalink)
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Re: What would you change for the next model Territory?

Trip computer features:

Distance to destination
Travel time to destination

I do a lot of trips away, 2 to 3 a month, travelling all over the country to dog shows and while the DTE is helpful I would like to be able to enter the total journey distance eg Adelaide to Canberra and have a updated readout of how far still to travel and time, taken on average travel speed.

Oh and puddle lights under the side mirrors like the Exploder.
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Old 11-25-2004, 13:20   #82 (permalink)
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Re: What would you change for the next model Territory?

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Personally I'm not convinced a V8 is entirely a marketing turnoff - especially if it is an option rather than standard. It never harmed Land Rover/Range Rover. If people are prepared to think outside the Ford square I'm sure some beautiful little unit like the Rover one could fit in the space, give the necessary boot and give it relatively economically. Surely Ford can afford to fit up some experimental units with alternative powertrain options?
Hi New2ford - it's not any issue of sale-ability. The V8 would certainly sell. It's more an issue of the mix of products that Ford would sell overall. So if you make a Diesel Terri and a V8 Terri and a Turbo Terri and an RTV Terri and TX AWD/RWD,TS AWD/RWD,GHIA AWD/RWD then you're looking at 10 variants sharing 2000 sales a month. In other words there will be components in there that you may only buy 200 a month of - that's not an economic quantity that's supportable in ANY company.

Also if you have 10 variants of Terri, how many Escapes, Exploders and Falcons will they sell? I think the Escapes will continue to sell but the Exploder will die off and the Falcon may go down to Magna volumes.

It's fairly important that Ford creates a product set that takes customers from other manufacturers and not too many from it's own products. My local dealer had already noted that Falcon interest was down substantially. On the last day I was there, there were squillions of people looking and driving the Terri and only 1 couple looking at the Falcon.

So... the Diesel would be good because it would help sell the product in the bush and QLD, and win over some LandRover/Toyota/Mitsu customers. The V8 however would steel sales of a Turbo version, the Exploder and V8 Falcons.

I personally (with my businessman hat on) would like to see Ford spend some development money on doing some Left-hand drive mods so that when the OK comes down from the US then this car can quickly make the production shift and be exportable. If the Terri gets export quantities then we'll start seeing improvements in build consistency (enforced by overseas pickyness - something Toyota learnt in Aus) and ensure that more variants become cost effective - if Ford sell 20,000 a month instead of 2,000 then we'll get any variant we're willing to pay for!
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Old 11-25-2004, 13:46   #83 (permalink)
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Re: What would you change for the next model Territory?

Re: Export Markets.

Problems with Territory as an export.....

1.Ford US make a vehicle that looks 90% like a territory with similar internals. So one would assume that this would be the likely export wehicle for left hand drive markets. So that leaves us with right hand drive markets only.
Check out www.ford.com its called a Freestyle.
The cost of re-tooling to suit a LHD market would be prohibitive when you consider that supposedly $500 million went into Territory Development.

2.Ford bosses state that the VIC factory is working close to 100% capacity. That is, that they're selling everything their making. So would be an interesting proposition to handle export orders.(Unless local demand slowed)

Territory accessory wishlist..... must be the Pommy in me.... but I want an electric factory installed sunroof !

Ps. Will be collecting an offshore Terri TX AWD on Monday. Have opted for color coding, cruise, rear shelf, alloys and protection pack.

Has anyone got any info on the paint protection & rust Protection. IE. Is it
effective and worthwhile ?
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Old 11-25-2004, 14:33   #84 (permalink)
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Re: What would you change for the next model Territory?

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Re: Export Markets.

Problems with Territory as an export.....

1.Ford US make a vehicle that looks 90% like a territory with similar internals. So one would assume that this would be the likely export wehicle for left hand drive markets. So that leaves us with right hand drive markets only.
Check out www.ford.com its called a Freestyle.
The cost of re-tooling to suit a LHD market would be prohibitive when you consider that supposedly $500 million went into Territory Development................

Has anyone got any info on the paint protection & rust Protection. IE. Is it
effective and worthwhile ?
More like 50%. The Freestyle is a Front Wheel Drive based AWD, it uses a V6 engine and MacPherson strut front suspension & a multi link rear (like the escape). The transmision is aVariavle type; Electronically Controlled Continuously Variable (eCVT).
I read a review from a yank which mentioned some good things about it, but also some not so good things. Overall the Territory has had much better reviews than the Freestyle. (I'll try and find the article).

I got the paint protection, it is hard to tell if it works, it is very easy to wash & chamois though.
I thought that the rust protection is false economy, Ford's don't seem to rust like they once did.
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Old 11-25-2004, 14:41   #85 (permalink)
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Thanks JD.
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Old 11-25-2004, 15:27   #86 (permalink)
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Re: What would you change for the next model Territory?

JohnnyDepp,

Also the US version is seriously underpowered (203hp = 151 KW) for a 2 tonne AWD vehicle. So U are right in regard to mechanicals.

Cheech.
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Old 11-25-2004, 15:54   #87 (permalink)
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Thanks JD.
No problems.

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Also the US version is seriously underpowered (203hp = 151 KW) for a 2 tonne AWD vehicle. So U are right in regard to mechanicals.

Cheech.
I don't think they can put much more power through the VCT trans.

This is the review that I read;
http://www.autoweb.lycos.com/content...on/showarticle
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Old 11-25-2004, 22:27   #88 (permalink)
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Re: What would you change for the next model Territory?

I think the Explorer will stay, it's the world's best selling SUV/4 wheel drive, plus it's the closest thing they got to a true 4 wheel drive. They'd be nuts to let it go
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Has anyone got any info on the paint protection & rust Protection. IE. Is it
effective and worthwhile ?
IMO, rust and paint protection are an absolute waste of money, especially if they're the kind purchased from a dealer.

Rust protection - how many late model cars rust now days?? Bound to be some, but not many! Unless you live next to the ocean, give it a miss. Or go and get a can of fish oil and spray it in all the nooks and crannies yourself.

Paint protection - I once paid 3 or 4 hundred bucks for so called paint protection on an HSV I once had. Found out later, that the company that does it for the dealer (also does many of the dealers, and is a national product) does the same thing for private customers for a quarter of the price.

The actual paint protection stuff, and the "special" shampoo that they give you to wash with, is nothing more than rebadged Meguirs product - which is good stuff, but not at 4 times what Meguirs charge, for a 3rd of the volume, and is actually nothing more than their polish and car wash!

Best paint protection you can buy is regular wash/polish yourself.
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Old 11-28-2004, 13:55   #90 (permalink)
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Re: What would you change for the next model Territory?

Burnsi...

I hope we're not talking about the same stuff but......

The product they use now has only come out from Wynns very recently.

I too have had stuff from the dealer before that only lasted 2 years at most.

The "new" product has a lifetime warranty. Ford guarantee that anything will wash off and not stain the paintwork. If it does ford will re-spray the panel.

Suppossedly I dont have to polish the car ever again.

I hope this stuff works as I go waterskiing in a place that trees drop sap that sticks to your car like you know what to a blanket.

Any opinions on this new product would be appreciated.

Thanks.
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