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Old 08-30-2004, 15:47   #1 (permalink)
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Wheels - New Territory

Hi Everyone,

I am looking at the Territory at the moment - but would like to put bigger wheels on it from day one.

I know I sound like a kid who should be driving a "bopbop" mazda - I've been driving a Volvo T5 Wagon which I like, handles well, big wheels etc - but is too old.

So the question is - has anyone looked at this before? - if so do you have link to a site that shows some Territory's with aftermarket wheels? Here in NZ we have a few Jeeps/Explorers etc around which look good - what about the new ford?

PS I am NOT looking to put on chrome wheels or make it look like a gang/pimp/LA rapper's truck, just maybe one size up?

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Re: Wheels - New Territory

Hi Stu i've had the same thoughts reckon it would look great ,i even thought of lowering it about 20ml but then everyone would really think i was a wanker ,i don't intend to do any of roading so i might just do it one day.
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Old 08-30-2004, 16:59   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Wheels - New Territory

I would think that any wheel that will fit a Falcon will probably fit a Territory - the problem you're going to have is finding a tyre with the right profile to fit it, as I think the 17" wheels on the Terry run 50 or 55 series tyres.

Thus you'd be looking for a 45 series 18 or a 40 series 19, and I don't know what the availability of those sizes would be...
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Old 08-30-2004, 19:08   #4 (permalink)
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JR, you sure about that? I think you can actually specify what kind of tyres you want on it, on the quotes we have it says the tyres are 'road biased'.

What about XR 18's?
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if you wanted low profile tires you will need atleast 19s, porobably 20s, check out the BMW X5 they have low profile 20inch rims
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Old 08-30-2004, 19:26   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Wheels - New Territory

I started a similar thread on the topic here;

Alternative wheel/tyre sizes for Territory

Consensus is that if your Terry is AWD the DSC could be easily upset by a change in profile/diameter.

Also, good luck keeping it legal by finding something close in diameter (in Australia) on a different size rim. Stock size is 235/60/17. Some possible alternative listed in above thread.

Something else to watch out for is that while the Terry has the AU/BA stud pattern & offset (or so I've been told) the wheels themselves have a higher load rating. Most of the larger diameter SUV wheels (18"-26") from the US that would have a suitable load rating have pre-AU type offsets suitable for RWD/4WD truck type vehicles.
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I started a similar thread on the topic here;

Alternative wheel/tyre sizes for Territory

Consensus is that if your Terry is AWD the DSC could be easily upset by a change in profile/diameter.

Also, good luck keeping it legal by finding something close in diameter (in Australia) on a different size rim. Stock size is 235/60/17. Some possible alternative listed in above thread.
Something else to watch out for is that while the Terry has the AU/BA stud pattern & offset (or so I've been told) the wheels themselves have a higher load rating. Most of the larger diameter SUV wheels (18"-26") from the US that would have a suitable load rating have pre-AU type offsets suitable for RWD/4WD truck type vehicles.
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JR, you sure about that? I think you can actually specify what kind of tyres you want on it, on the quotes we have it says the tyres are 'road biased'.

What about XR 18's?
RWD Territory's come with a tyre that is "road biased". AWD territory's come with a tyre that is "offroad biased".

Same size and profile, just a different tread pattern depending on the drive configuration of the car you order.

All Territory wheels - even the optional alloys (which are actually the stock TS alloys so I don't even know what you'd get as an option if you'd ordered a TS to start with) are 17"

Thaks to Raptor for pointing out the tyres are 60 series - this will make hunting for a correct profile for 18" and 19" even harder than I thought!
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Hi Everyone

Thanks for the feedback. Re the electronic traction/skid control (don’t hesitate to flame me if I’ve missed something really obvious) this wouldn’t be upset by a slightly different wheel size?
(slightly larger, never smaller - once again not looking to create a LA style pimp car)

Reason I figure is this - if the system was dependent on tyre diameter it would be upset every time you had a slow leak in a tyre - it would render the system useless, or every time you took your car to a main dealer, large tyre shop etc and they put too much air in the tyre(s) once again the traction control would not work.

I though the system works on "relative wheel speed” taking into account a given amount of give/error for going around corners added to engine revs, steering position, overall speed, acceleration etc?

I know the BMW flat tyre warning works on relative wheel speeds, as does the traction/anti skid system. Also why would the terri be any different to all other modern cars that have various forms of anti skid + aftermarket wheels?

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Kiwistu,

I tend to agree with your comments on the DSC but keep in mind that it will have been optimised for the factory wheel/tyre combo.

It'll also be taking into account relative speed differences it would anticipate for those wheel/tyres due to things like deflection under load (dependant in part on profile) and the slip angle of that tread/profile/compound when accessing the actual trajectory of the vehicles vs the steering input. Further it will be making compensations (braking individual wheels, adjusting power) based on the car having the grip of the std wheel/tyre combo.

It's not the off-the-line traction control or braking (ABS) skid control you need to think about its the effects when going at higher speeds when its doing it's Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) tricks.

All reports indicate it works very well and very unobtrusively. It's not that it won't work at all with different wheel/tyres but it's unlikely to work as well.
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