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Old 05-18-2011, 21:02   #1 (permalink)
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Ford indicates that any 2010 model which has a "G" in the 8th character of the VIN# is an E-85 vehicle.

My 2009 Escape with the same 3.0L V6 has a "G" in the 8th character. However, the fuel cap says No E85. Is it possible my Escape made later in 2009 was actually capable but because Ford did not plan the marketing for the E85 Escape in 2010 did not change the fuel cap etc.

Is there any way I can check for the injector models and or computer model #s to verify if the car is actually E-85 capable?

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Ford indicates that any 2010 model which has a "G" in the 8th character of the VIN# is an E-85 vehicle.

My 2009 Escape with the same 3.0L V6 has a "G" in the 8th character. However, the fuel cap says No E85. Is it possible my Escape made later in 2009 was actually capable but because Ford did not plan the marketing for the E85 Escape in 2010 did not change the fuel cap etc.

Is there any way I can check for the injector models and or computer model #s to verify if the car is actually E-85 capable?

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Not sure about the meaning of the "G" but I have one also on my '09 with a build date of 9/12/08.
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Old 05-19-2011, 08:18   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Escape and Use of E85 Fuel

Doesn't look like the 09 can run the E85.

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Re: Escape and Use of E85 Fuel

The engines appear to be the same.

See 2010 3.0L below:

Engine Specifications Escape 3.0L Duratec V6 FFV See link http://www.ford.com/suvs/escape/specifications/engine/ for 2010 stats.

I suspect there may be injector and or computer differences. If I knew where to go to verify those parts then I might be able to answer my question.

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Re: Escape and Use of E85 Fuel

You should go by what the owner's manual states.
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Re: Escape and Use of E85 Fuel

Best thing to do is write down your VIN and call a Ford dealer.

On a side note if the owners manual doesn't specify the use of E85, stay away from it. The FFV module is generally all that's needed to run E85 as most valves are hardened enough to handle it on a regular basis on most modern engines built today. E85 isn't as efficient as petrol so you'll need a solid 30% more E85 fuel to travel the same distance as you would have you filled up with 87 octane.

Also, it doesn't state this in the manual but for vehicles that can run E85, it's best to stick with using the same fuel for a while rather than consistently switching it back and fourth, as it can damage the FFV module.
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Re: Escape and Use of E85 Fuel

The FFV module shines a light through the fuel. The mix that passes is the mix that passes, no matter the ratio. The module should care less what mix is in the tank at any given moment.
The injectors are different for a FFV, and thus the pulse width{how long the injector is turned on} table internal to the ECM will be different.
The wiring harness and fuel delivery systems would also be different.
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