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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 08-21-09, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
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Is this true re 2005 Expedition?

Can it possibly be true that a non-ford oil filter can damage the cam shaft position sensors? If that's true where is it documented?
Our dealership is telling us our extended warranty won't cover fixing the sensors because we didn't use ford oil filters with check valves.

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Re: Is this true re 2005 Expedition?

Aftermarket comanies manufacture parts that are similar to OEM. When I worked for The Government agency, we used Wix from day one. They match OEMs design. If it says it's made for a particular vehicle, it wil match the OEM, maybe not quite as good but still will not void the warranty. Here is the Law regarding non-OEM parts.
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Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, Title 1, __101-112, 15 U.S.C. __2301 et seq. This act, effective July 4, 1975, is designed to "improve the adequacy of information available to consumers, prevent deception, and improve competition in the marketing of consumer products . . .." The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act applies only to consumer products, which are defined as "any tangible personal property which is distributed in commerce and which is normally used for personal, family, or household purposes (including any such property intended to be attached to or installed in any real property without regard to whether it is so attached or installed)." Under Section 103 of the Act, if a warrantor sells a consumer product costing more than $15 under written warranty, the writing must state the warranty in readily understandable language as determined by standards set forth by the Federal Trade Commission. There is, however, no requirement that a warranty be given nor that any product be warranted for any length of time. Thus the Act only requires that when there is a written warranty, the warrantor clearly disclose the nature of his warranty obligation prior to the sale of the product. The consumer may then compare warranty protection, thus shopping for the "best buy." To further protect the consumer from deception, the Act requires that any written warranty must be labeled as either a "full" or a "limited" warranty. Only warranties that meet the standards of the Act may be labeled as "full." One of the most important provisions of the Act prohibits a warrantor from disclaiming or modifying any implied warranty whenever any written warranty is given or service contract entered into.
This means that, under the provisions of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975, an automotive dealership/carmaker cannot void your warranty because your vehicle has been modified with aftermarket parts. They (the manufacturers) have to prove that the failure was the direct result of the installed aftermarket part. Unfortunately, too many folks have gone to a dealer to have warranty service performed on their modified vehicle only to have the dealer refuse to cover the defective items. The dealer usually states, that because of the aftermarket parts installed, the warranty is void (without even attempting to determine whether or not the aftermarket part caused the problem). This is illegal...period.
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Re: Is this true re 2005 Expedition?

Cheap oil filters combine the bypass valve with the anti-drainback valve. It's a way to save money. But if you buy a name brand filter, you'll get a standard bypass and a silicone anti-drainback. Here's and article with cut-away photos showing the difference between an economy filter and a cheapo

Fram premium versus private label cheapo

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oh man you are in an ordeal... The thing is, those sensors for the cam and timing chain are at the end of the oil pressure, so start up you will hear a rattle its just because lack of oil initially. Fram and most aftermarket oil filter companies "meet or exceed" oem recommendations. Most oil filters have the check valve in them.
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