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Old 01-01-2004, 01:54   #1 (permalink)
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Question Comfortable 235/45R17 Tyres?

Having just changed over from 225/50R16 Yokies to 235/45R17 Dunlop Sports 3000A tyres I'm amazed at the different ride quality. Now I expected the 17" tyres to be a little firmer but not by such a big difference.

I'm told that the Dunlop Sport 3000A tyres are not known for their comfort and as I'm new to the world of 17" I thought I'd ask those of you who have been rollin' on the bigger diameter what you think the most comfortable tyre might be. Accepting that there is always some allowances to be made in the comfort/performance/quietness/durability departments is there anything around that has 'second to none' ride comfort and that also scores well in the other areas?

Bob Jane (Mick at MacGregor, for us Brissy blokes) has recommended the new Firenza tyres... says they're as goods as if not better than anything on the local market in the comfort arena and will also outperform most of the flashy stuff for durability, wet and dry performance and quietness.

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Old 01-01-2004, 04:34   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Comfortable 235/45R17 Tyres?

I have p6000, damm good preformance tyre but a little noisy some times.
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Re: Comfortable 235/45R17 Tyres?

Maybe you should have stayed with the 16"?? I did the same thing with my XR6 which had those poxy multi spoke 16" that the early ones had. I changed because I just couldn't stand those butt-ugly wheels. They had Bridgestone Grid 2's on them and they were a nice tyre. My 17" rims have Falken Azenis ST115's and although they were noticeably firmer it wasn't enough to annoy me. The XR6 is a firm riding car in the first place.

I find the Falkens are a good tyre and also fairly quiet which may be a factor when talking about comfort. Having said that, these are the only 17" tyres I've driven on. Try those or maybe Bridgestone Grid, if they ride anything like the 16" I had you'll be happy.

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Re: Comfortable 235/45R17 Tyres?

Considered Yokahama's AVS dB, or Bridgestone's Turanza.
Or ring around and ask more people "in the know!".
Can't say I've heard of Firenza's, till now.

http://www.stamfordtyres.com/tpl/products_firenza.html

They seem pretty good...
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Re: Comfortable 235/45R17 Tyres?

Well... researched the arse out of this today and it seems the best bang for your buck in the low-$200 range are either Yokohama S306 or Dunlop SP Sport 3000A (which I have) - both about $220-$230.

Most dealers are happy to recommend the cheaper Falken and Sava etc first (at about $170) however I hear that's where the best profit margins are.

Beyond that the Michelin Pilot Preceda get a good nod but at about $320 a corner I definately be giving those a miss.

The Firenzas got a bagging from one of the tyre places (can't remember which one). Apparently after having them on both the work Falcon and Commode they become very unbalanced once they reach half life. The tyre dealer has stopped selling them for this reason.

There must be many of you running the original Dunlop SP3000 on your BAs - how are they holding up?.. any wear, grip, noise issues? Are they a good tyre, have you tried alternatives (same car & rims) and if so what were the new tyres and how did they compare?

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Re: Comfortable 235/45R17 Tyres?

I have both the Kumho Ecsta 712 (@ $185 each) and Hankook Ventus K102s (@ $190 each) on my 2 cars and they are a very good tyre in terms of wet & dry performance, and not too bad in terms of noise, wear, etc. They also rated well in the Wheels/motor 17" tyre tests last year. I have also heard that the Hankook Ventus K104 is a slightly better tyre than the K102, and is usually only an extra $5 or $10 per tyre.
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Re: Comfortable 235/45R17 Tyres?

I can vouch for the Kumho 712's, they are excellent.
You don't happen to have a copy of that tyre test JC?

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Rick - I do. It's at home though. I will try to find it tonight and scan it in.
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JC -
That would be much appreciated, thanks.

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Re: Comfortable 235/45R17 Tyres?

Russell posted an excerpt from the latest motor performance tyre review (altho it was for 18's) - with some surprising results (like hankook and falken doing *very* well).

Check your tyre pressures aren't insane, but I'm not sure how much improvement you will find in other brands..

Like Soxx and JC, I have the Kuhmo 712's, and they seem to be going pretty well...
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