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Old 05-23-2004, 01:00   #1 (permalink)
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Please Help: What Was It-The Tyres, The Car In General or The Road

drivin home from work today (23/5/04) in my XF Ghia comin through the round about and out the other side the rear end broke traction in the wet and i didnt boot it or hook it or nothin just comin through in 2nd gear normally
Possiblities i hav come up with

-Tyres r shit cause they r retreads
-The LSD kicked in and road was a little slippery
-The oil out of the road came out as it hasnt rained for agers and made the road slippery
-The 5 speed is to much for the 2.77 LSD and just puts to much torque through it or somethin but if anyone could help it would be greatly appreatiatedi dont intend on writing off my car before i get my license
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-The oil out of the road came out as it hasnt rained for agers and made the road slippery
Most likely.
Retreads are actually good in the wet. Soft rubber and deep tread usually.
LSD wouldnt kick in on a roundabout in normal conditions
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Oil, tyres, tyre pressure?
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Most likely.
Retreads are actually good in the wet. Soft rubber and deep tread usually.
LSD wouldnt kick in on a roundabout in normal conditions
it was wet and i dont think thats normal conditions
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-The LSD kicked in and road was a little slippery
-The oil out of the road came out as it hasnt rained for ages and made the road slippery
-The 5 speed is to much for the 2.77 LSD and just puts to much torque through it
id say a combination of these 3 would be a start. dont really know alot about diffs but i was reading before somewhere that the 2.77 and a 5 speed dont really go.
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it was wet and i dont think thats normal conditions

I have and LSD on my XR, it's NEVER misbehaved in the wet or drive if I wasnt pushing it! Just cruising around a round-a-bout in the wet shouldnt cause any problems with an LSD.
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id say a combination of these 3 would be a start. dont really know alot about diffs but i was reading before somewhere that the 2.77 and a 5 speed dont really go.
yeah one of me mates had a 5 speed and the 2.77 LSD and he said in the wet its hard to keep it straight in the wet so i dont no if he is talkin bout this or he he flogs it in the wet
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I have and LSD on my XR, it's NEVER misbehaved in the wet or drive if I wasnt pushing it! Just cruising around a round-a-bout in the wet shouldnt cause any problems with an LSD.
ok so not LSD i recon its the tyres (stupid retreads)
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I have and LSD on my XR, it's NEVER misbehaved in the wet or drive if I wasnt pushing it! Just cruising around a round-a-bout in the wet shouldnt cause any problems with an LSD.
but what size LSD?
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Lol, its not going to get any easier to drive with a different diff ratio.... considering 2.77 is the tallest ratio you can go. Even with a 2.92 you'd be loosing traction easier than you can now.

The LSD might have kicked in but I've gotten cars totally sideways in the wet with single spinner diffs so i doubt thats the cause. Plus if you were driving at low speed the diff probably would have been locked the whole time anyway.

My last set of retreads were the best wet weather tyers i've ever had, period.

The oil on the road is a highly likely cause....also, is the road sunken? The most recent time i've had the back of the XF step out on me in the wet, under light accelleration, was after I turned off a road and started off without loosing traction, then at about 40 kmh went over a sunken bit of road (they recently dug it up to repair a busted pipe and didn't fix the road) which must have been full of water.... instant aquaplane and totally sideways along a straight, downhill section of road. Nearly got cleaned up by an oncoming car but I thankfully got steering back in time.
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