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Old 06-15-2002, 06:20   #1 (permalink)
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Question XF Suspension and brakes???

Hi everyone.

I am researching different suspension and brakes packages for my '87 XF. After improved ride and handling, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I have spoken with pedders, they have recommended their own big bore shocks and lower springs. Another dealer has king springs with GT gas shocks. Opinions please????

Currently my XF is a stock 250 with carb. I am looking at various parts to improve its performance. Cams, exhaust, other good bits.....unfortunately V8 is not an option as the wife drives it a bit and doesn't want a beast. However a sporty 6 is the preferred option.

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Shaun in Brisbane.
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Hi Shaun and welcome to the Forums.

You will proabably find that either option is a good choice to improve front end turn in and rebound compliance. Other useful front end mods are replacement of the standard rubber bushes with Nolathane ones and replacement (when they need it) of the ball joints with Dufor units.

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Old 06-15-2002, 07:04   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks Russ.

In reference to the bushes, the guy at pedders suggested a combination standard rubber and nolathene at different points in the front end. Never heard of this until today, I was going to put a nolethene bushes through the front end but the pedders thought it wasn't necessary.
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My opinion is to use the Pedders, I have used both.
GT gas shocks don't last long, well in less than 12 months you will notice poorer shock performance, plus they will never work as well as the Pedders shorter, fatter shocks.
As for springs Pedder can give you springs that will get the ride height closer to what you want, and unless Kings springs have changed all they will give you is a different spring height, which means with a stiffer spring you may end up higher than you started.
As for brakes I would like to hear ideas too, the only thing I know that is simple is DBA cross drilled disc and Bendix Ultimate pads.
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Hi damage181,

I was speaking to the owner's of a two different brake shops, they had tested the DBA standard, slotted and cross-drill & slotted rotors. Both thought the cross-drill & slotted rotors only benefit those travelling over 140KM.

One of guys had a Chev and a HSV and was using standard rotors with Bendix premium pads.

Both said the C/D/S rotors deteriorated quickly, even cracking and can be hairy when cold.

Two option have been suggested to me:

Standard DBA rotors all round or on the rear with slotted rotters only on the front.
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I have never used the new DBA yet, I know some people that have and have only good comments, but that is their opinion.

When I was much younger I stuffed a set of standard front disc in one go, showing off to a mate (scaring him actually) I showed him how short of a distance to a T intersection I could leave it before braking at 160KM, young, stupid and hot spotted rotors(stuffed)
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Thanks Russ.

In reference to the bushes, the guy at pedders suggested a combination standard rubber and nolathene at different points in the front end. Never heard of this until today, I was going to put a nolethene bushes through the front end but the pedders thought it wasn't necessary.
I would agree with this - the critical places to change to Nolathane are control arm and sway bar bushes.
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Welcome to the forums xfxcess.
Our back up vehicle is a 87 XF, 5 speed and has been lowered using Pedders suspension. The car has had this done 4 - 5 years ago and still handles like a dream. It has standard disks all round and stops quite well, though we are considering replacing the front rotors with DBA slotted ones as that is the main stopping power.

As i was very happy with the Pedders suspension, i have had the same set up fitted to my EF XR8 and i'm rapped with the handling and looks of the car.
Next brake pads will be Bendix Performance as they are a better gripping pad, with unfortunately more dust on the mags. Guess you can't have it all.

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Thanks Jon, I think will go with the pedders suspensions and DBA slotted rotors on the front with standard rotors on the rear, both with Bendix Performax pads. Seems it could be a reliable combination.

Does the brake dust damage the mags? I was looking at fitting as set of FTR mags to the XF.

What 5 speed box do you have fitted? Is the XF a standard 250? and and mods?
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Should I convert the 250 crossflow to EFI??? Pro and cons???
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