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Old 09-18-2010, 11:17   #1 (permalink)
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02 windstar trans issues

greetings,
i'm a newbie so please bear with me.

i have a windstar with a a4xn/4f50n trans. 212k miles. decided to change the fluid, filter. looked like a piece of cake according to the haynes manual. never should have tried it. had trouble getting the orange filter seal into place in the housing, not sure if I shoved it up far enough. found out later i torqued the pan bolts too tight.

fluid starting leaking a little at first, then more. seemed to be primarily from just forward of the pan, from the trans housing. hard to tell. appeared to be some smaller leaks from around some pan bolts.

had van towed home so as not to do further damage. by the looks of the fluid i drained last night, it doesn't look good- pretty dark, smells burnt.

replaced filter/seal again. forced seal farther into the housing so it's flush with the top of the hole. used a socket the size of the seal to put in place. not sure if i should have forced it. buttoned it up, torqued pan bolts to 105 inch/lbs.

about to fill with fluid to see if it still runs. any advice?

thanks, Steve
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Old 09-20-2010, 19:13   #2 (permalink)
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greetings,
i'm a newbie so please bear with me.

i have a windstar with a a4xn/4f50n trans. 212k miles. decided to change the fluid, filter. looked like a piece of cake according to the haynes manual. never should have tried it. had trouble getting the orange filter seal into place in the housing, not sure if I shoved it up far enough. found out later i torqued the pan bolts too tight.

fluid starting leaking a little at first, then more. seemed to be primarily from just forward of the pan, from the trans housing. hard to tell. appeared to be some smaller leaks from around some pan bolts.

had van towed home so as not to do further damage. by the looks of the fluid i drained last night, it doesn't look good- pretty dark, smells burnt.

replaced filter/seal again. forced seal farther into the housing so it's flush with the top of the hole. used a socket the size of the seal to put in place. not sure if i should have forced it. buttoned it up, torqued pan bolts to 105 inch/lbs.

about to fill with fluid to see if it still runs. any advice?

thanks, Steve

Hello and good day:

First may I ask are you sure on those Torque Specs?? Does Haynes recommend "in/lbs" or "ft/lbs".... According to my Haynes Manual it States "7-9 ft/lbs ( Chapter 1 - 3)

Check Pages 1-23 to 1-24 you may be over tightening the Bolts, and you need to tighten them working around the pan...hand tighten at first..then work around the pan torqueing each bolt.

Remove the pan and then remove the filter on the valve body. Clean the pan and gasket surfaces on pan & trany. Install new filter and pan gasket and gently tighten bolts. Caution, if overtightened it will leak!!! Remember how tight they were when you removed them or get a spec & torque them. Refill the trany through the filler tube, DON'T overfill it or it may not shift properly. To check the fluid level the vehicle needs to be running in park and on a level surface. If you do the above you will only change aprox 40% of the fluid. The torque converter, cooler & lines hold the rest and the fluid won't drain out of them.
I suggest you take it to a shop that has a trany FLUSHING machine and will exchange 100% of the fluid and do the filter & gasket at the same time. Add a bottle of seal conditioner when done. With the price of a new trany this should be done every 80,000 kilometers (50-60,000 miles) or check your owners manual for service intervals. Not a lot of shops have this machine so be selective. Might cost up to $200-250.00 for this service to get it done properly but a proper trany rebuild can be $1500-3000.00 or more in some cases on some vehicles.

Flushing the fluid?

But the system should be flushed. Just dropping the pan and draining the oil and changing the filter on your transmission leaves all the used fluid still in torque converter. Have the system evacuated and totally replacing ALL the fluid is a much better approach. It will cost you more but if you plan on keeping the Ford, it's a worthwhile investment
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Old 09-21-2010, 03:28   #3 (permalink)
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Re: 02 windstar trans issues

12 Nm (9 ft. lbs.)

Also, don't use any kind of gasket sealer on a transmission pan, as it will almost always bust the gasket.
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