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Old 09-06-2008, 16:38   #1 (permalink)
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Replaced Starter on 2001 Windstar, Now it will not turn over

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A close Friend of mine has a problem with his 2001 Ford Windstar. His starter solenoid went out, and was making the classic.."click,clicking" sound. He called me up, and asked my advice.

I told him him to go get a Re-built Starter, advise him on the procedure to remove it and replace it. He did so and followed my instruction to the letter.


The next day he calls and said he think he may have blown a Fuse...Because every-time he turn the key over to start it...it did nothing....and I mean nothing. Wow my first thought was the Ignition switch was bad, or it should have least made the standard "clicking" out under the hood.
I asked him if he had made sure he had tighten the terminals to the starter. He said he had, and made sure everything went back as it came off.

So I went over to help..and here is what I did:
1. Turn the ignition on and over to start position...nothing..the warning lights came on in the run position..when I turn the Key to start position, the lights would go off...now here is it gets wierd...all of the gages would go off, or down...the Fuel gauge would go from 3/4 of a tank to E...the Oil pressure would go to L.
2. I then checked the Starter...checked to see if the terminals were on the correct post, and tighten..check to see if any wires were bare or fared, and they were not. everything looked good..
3. Just for Shits and giggles I asked my friend to turn the ignition switch on to the Run position. I then did the old trick of jumping the terminals on the starter....Zoom, Zoom it started right up.
4. Turn off the ignition, and tried to start it again...no luck...nothing.
5. Ok the next step..checked all fuses,and relays. I used both a Volt Meter,Circuit Tester, and a Self power continuity tester. All appeared to be fine. I then Visually checked each Mini fuse, and Maxi fuse, all appeared to be fine.
6. Then I got under the Steering column..Pulled the ignition switch.. and check it with a Continuity tester, and Volt meter....It was just fine.
7. Pulled the ignition cylinder from the column, and made sure the Mechanism worked...it did.
8. Put everything back toghether...and tried to start the car...NOTHING...It appears when I turn the ignition switch over to the Run Position every-things dies....

HELP....O YES...did i mention my friend had just replaced the Battery 3 day's before this all happen...

Does anyone have any ideas what the HECK is going on????
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Old 09-07-2008, 10:14   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Replaced Starter on 2001 Windstar, Now it will not turn over

I'd verify that the polarity is correct on the starter, as he mentioned that he did install the wires but you didn't verify the work. That would probably explain the electrical drain when you turn the vehicle to 'run'. I'd go over everything top to bottom and make sure the battery is at the correct charge level and the alternator is wired properly as well. It's one thing to check for continuity, but making sure it's correctly installed is what matters.
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I'd verify that the polarity is correct on the starter, as he mentioned that he did install the wires but you didn't verify the work. That would probably explain the electrical drain when you turn the vehicle to 'run'. I'd go over everything top to bottom and make sure the battery is at the correct charge level and the alternator is wired properly as well. It's one thing to check for continuity, but making sure it's correctly installed is what matters.
Thanks 360: I will do that...lol that should have been one of the most basics of things to do
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Well we found out what it was: The TPS on the Trans-axle...(Trans-axle Positioning solenoid.) I was bad and had to be replaced...lol...I did not know it would cause this type of problem when it would go bad.
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Re: Replaced Starter on 2001 Windstar, Now it will not turn over

At least the problem is resolved! Sensors can do various things to vehicles. I forgot to mention to check and see if any engine lights/codes were showing after, or even before the install. Not that the problem would necessarily light up the check engine/trans light.
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