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Old 11-15-2008, 16:24   #1 (permalink)
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Hey everybody. New car owner, old car as first one.

I've got a 1995 ford escort, 1.9 liter 4 cyl, I think it's got 190K miles on it. Either way, rather high mileage on it.

About 2 months ago I began having problems getting it to start. After much bruising and bloodied knuckles, cursing and broken tools, I had my local auto parts store check my starter (turned out good, just needed to be cleaned), replaced my alternator and put in a new alternator. I also replaced the thermostat due to overheating, and had two bolts snap off in the valve cover (got them replaced though, not a big problem). Oh yeah, and I replaced the ground cable when I put in the new battery, cause the old one and new one have the connectors on opposite ends (i.e. pos. neg. vs neg. pos.) so I had to buy a new cable so it'd be long enough.

I have an aftermarket stereo I installed myself, along with a 14" 500 watt sub running off a 425 watt amp. (Kinda had to do it myself considering the fact that when I bought the car the previous owner had completely ripped out the stereo.)

Anyway, like I said, about 2 months ago I had the car die on me, which led me to have the starter tested. It turned out to be good, it just needed to be cleaned at the terminals so I did that. Put it back in, ripped out the alternator and replaced the battery. It ran for a couple minutes, just long enough for me to get it off the street and into my brother's driveway. Now it won't stay running at all for more than a few seconds, and then only with the help of a jumpstart. I talked to my uncle who's worked on and completely rebuilt several cars (although none of them were fords) and he did some testing, found that for some reason the alternator isn't charging. The car apparently won't stay running because it's only using the battery, not the alternator as it's supposed to. I guess the voltage drops from a (supposedly) normal 14.5 volts to the battery voltage (12 volts) and then keeps dropping.

I called several mechanics and asked them about it, only one could say anything. He said he'd seen several Focuses with the same problem, and that it was a wire in some harness that came loose so it wasn't telling the alternator to charge properly, if at all. Not sure if the Focus is even remotely close in any aspect to the Escort, but it's worth a shot.

On a somewhat-related side note, I've run out of gas once (that I know of, don't know the car's previous history, although Carfax says there's some stuff of interest... IDK) and that mighta screwed up the fuel sensor? Not sure...

Well, given the data above and your own experiences, can anyone give me advice? I kinda want to get this thing running before the real snow flies, so I don't have to worry about walking to work or walking my daughter to dr appts. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Old 11-15-2008, 18:28   #2 (permalink)
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does it keep running when the jumper cables are still connected....
my mother has had her AU falcon for some time and it has recently started putting out similar symptoms,i recently changed the alternator which she now frowns at considering the $350 it cost... i would have to agree with the mechanic,(although im not sure of the similarities between the focus and escort, or the falcon to either ), i would suggest going over the harness and cleaning all the earth's and making sure all the plugs are all properly connected.. and if not i would suggest cleaning them,
sorry if this doesn't help, it the only thing im down to doing on my mother car,
by the way, im only 16 so i don't know much :D
also im an Australia

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Hey everybody. New car owner, old car as first one.

I've got a 1995 ford escort, 1.9 liter 4 cyl, I think it's got 190K miles on it. Either way, rather high mileage on it.

About 2 months ago I began having problems getting it to start. After much bruising and bloodied knuckles, cursing and broken tools, I had my local auto parts store check my starter (turned out good, just needed to be cleaned), replaced my alternator and put in a new alternator. I also replaced the thermostat due to overheating, and had two bolts snap off in the valve cover (got them replaced though, not a big problem). Oh yeah, and I replaced the ground cable when I put in the new battery, cause the old one and new one have the connectors on opposite ends (i.e. pos. neg. vs neg. pos.) so I had to buy a new cable so it'd be long enough.

I have an aftermarket stereo I installed myself, along with a 14" 500 watt sub running off a 425 watt amp. (Kinda had to do it myself considering the fact that when I bought the car the previous owner had completely ripped out the stereo.)

Anyway, like I said, about 2 months ago I had the car die on me, which led me to have the starter tested. It turned out to be good, it just needed to be cleaned at the terminals so I did that. Put it back in, ripped out the alternator and replaced the battery. It ran for a couple minutes, just long enough for me to get it off the street and into my brother's driveway. Now it won't stay running at all for more than a few seconds, and then only with the help of a jumpstart. I talked to my uncle who's worked on and completely rebuilt several cars (although none of them were fords) and he did some testing, found that for some reason the alternator isn't charging. The car apparently won't stay running because it's only using the battery, not the alternator as it's supposed to. I guess the voltage drops from a (supposedly) normal 14.5 volts to the battery voltage (12 volts) and then keeps dropping.

I called several mechanics and asked them about it, only one could say anything. He said he'd seen several Focuses with the same problem, and that it was a wire in some harness that came loose so it wasn't telling the alternator to charge properly, if at all. Not sure if the Focus is even remotely close in any aspect to the Escort, but it's worth a shot.

On a somewhat-related side note, I've run out of gas once (that I know of, don't know the car's previous history, although Carfax says there's some stuff of interest... IDK) and that mighta screwed up the fuel sensor? Not sure...

Well, given the data above and your own experiences, can anyone give me advice? I kinda want to get this thing running before the real snow flies, so I don't have to worry about walking to work or walking my daughter to dr appts. Any help will be greatly appreciated.



Hello and good day:

WOW....First may I ask How much you Paid for this car???

Have you replaced the Alternator yet??? If the Alternator is bad your charging system is all messed up, and your Battery will not hold the proper charge....One more important thing....Is by chance your Serpentine Belt Lose?? Or worn and in need of replacing...

Please check your Fuses to see if any have been blown....this may be related to you Fuel Gage not working correctly...if not...you have a bad Fuel indicator sensor...located on and in the Gas Tank..


Please keep us advise...and good luck....6
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Hello and good day:

WOW....First may I ask How much you Paid for this car???

Have you replaced the Alternator yet??? If the Alternator is bad your charging system is all messed up, and your Battery will not hold the proper charge....One more important thing....Is by chance your Serpentine Belt Lose?? Or worn and in need of replacing...

Please check your Fuses to see if any have been blown....this may be related to you Fuel Gage not working correctly...if not...you have a bad Fuel indicator sensor...located on and in the Gas Tank..


Please keep us advise...and good luck....6
You may; I paid 800 for it. In hindsight, probably 600 more than I should have.

I have indeed replaced the alternator, got a used one from a junkyard for like 30 bucks... wondering if that might have been a mistake. The serpentine belt (so far as I can tell) is okay, a few nicks but nothing that should impair the performance of the car.

Oh and yeah, I checked all the fuses, they all look good. I did replace one fuse in the engine block, the main (head) fuse I think it was, otherwise I really haven't had any fuse problems. Did for a short time when I installed my stereo but I pulled it out and re-insulated all the wires, no more shorts after that.

I was doing some thinking though, I guess the previous owner had had some issues with the cooling fan but they were resolved (I think? hope?) because someone who drove the car before I bought it drove it again after I purchased it and asked about some switch that I'd never seen but had seen a hole for it... IDK.

The dimmer switch also is messed up, there's a short somewhere for the left blinker system including hazards, only the right side works unless the left side wants to; I've had to drive with my cell phone out the window for a light on the left side. Pretty bad I would say. The horn also has stopped working unless it wants to... IDK.

I'll let you know if I think of anything else, and you guys think of anything you'll let me know. Deal?
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gosh you didnt even read my post did you , just cos im 16
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:09   #6 (permalink)
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does it keep running when the jumper cables are still connected....
my mother has had her AU falcon for some time and it has recently started putting out similar symptoms,i recently changed the alternator which she now frowns at considering the $350 it cost... i would have to agree with the mechanic,(although im not sure of the similarities between the focus and escort, or the falcon to either ), i would suggest going over the harness and cleaning all the earth's and making sure all the plugs are all properly connected.. and if not i would suggest cleaning them,
sorry if this doesn't help, it the only thing im down to doing on my mother car,
by the way, im only 16 so i don't know much :D
also im an Australia
Answers to you, V8:

Yeah it keeps running when jumpers are connected; however, not too terribly practical to try driving at all when you gotta keep another vehicle connected. Might as well just use the other vehicle at that point.

I actually was going to go through all the harnesses, checking wiring connections and such; however, since I live in the Northern Hemisphere a.k.a. the Frozen North (Minnesota, US) and we just got 4 inches of snow overnight, it really isn't too desirable a plan to start doing wiring jobs in the middle of winter. If it were summer, it'd be a different story, but snow down the gloves kinda puts a damper on automotive work. I've already had to replace my front end brakes in the middle of a blizzard in February, so I'm not too keen on repeating that experience. Lol.

Haha by the way it doesn't matter how old you are, sometimes younger eyes see things in ways that older eyes don't, so keep comin up with ideas and I'll let you know.
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Hello and good day to you V8:

Yes I did read your Post,,,,,and There is some Merit to your thought. and it would be a good idea to check the Harness, and check the Contacts.

However this sounds a little more detailed...


Being from Green Bay Wisconsin I know about the Snow, and Ice that is coming and trying to trouble shoot this in the dead of Winter is no Fun.

This is defiantly a Charging issue, and the Harness is only a small portion of the problem...

Let me do some digging into this... Jwko, or common sense may be able to help more.......

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Hello and good day to you V8:

Yes I did read your Post,,,,,and There is some Merit to your thought. and it would be a good idea to check the Harness, and check the Contacts.

However this sounds a little more detailed...


Being from Green Bay Wisconsin I know about the Snow, and Ice that is coming and trying to trouble shoot this in the dead of Winter is no Fun.

This is defiantly a Charging issue, and the Harness is only a small portion of the problem...

Let me do some digging into this... Jwko, or common sense may be able to help more.......

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Exactly, that's the problem. Almost everybody I've talked to has no experience with this issue, or if they do they haven't dealt with a problem of this caliber before. Now, if it were the middle of summer and I didn't have to work, I'd have absolutely no problem ripping out the interior, panels, seats, dash, etc and having a look-see and even ripping out wires. However, with the snow that's here to stay and wind chill factors in the negatives already, that's really not an option.

Something tells me this is going to end up being something really bad cause I've had this car for 2 winters now, and it seems that the big problems only happen in the winter which leads me to believe that this car was either manufactured or initially purchased and maintained in a much warmer climate; I had to replace the entire front brake system last winter (in the middle of February, if you're not a Northerner, that means dealing with frost-bitten fingertips and -80 wind chills... NOT fun) and now the electrical this year. I really think this car was only designed to operate in warm weather, which if so is going to make me just junk the damn thing because I've got a fiance and a year-and-a-half daughter, and walking 2 miles to work, or 5 miles to the local clinic really isn't an option. Take the car to a recycling plant and use that money as a down payment for a vehicle that'll actually run reliably in the winter... maybe a Jeep or a Dodge or something. MOPAR!!!!! lol!

On a related note, perhaps someone can tell me a way to get a free carfax report on the thing, I did a check on it and there were 10 or 20 items on it, but I couldn't see what they were because I don't have a credit card or a checking account, only savings.

EDIT: By the way, pardon my ignorance, but wth does JWKO mean?
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Exactly, that's the problem. Almost everybody I've talked to has no experience with this issue, or if they do they haven't dealt with a problem of this caliber before. Now, if it were the middle of summer and I didn't have to work, I'd have absolutely no problem ripping out the interior, panels, seats, dash, etc and having a look-see and even ripping out wires. However, with the snow that's here to stay and wind chill factors in the negatives already, that's really not an option.

Something tells me this is going to end up being something really bad cause I've had this car for 2 winters now, and it seems that the big problems only happen in the winter which leads me to believe that this car was either manufactured or initially purchased and maintained in a much warmer climate; I had to replace the entire front brake system last winter (in the middle of February, if you're not a Northerner, that means dealing with frost-bitten fingertips and -80 wind chills... NOT fun) and now the electrical this year. I really think this car was only designed to operate in warm weather, which if so is going to make me just junk the damn thing because I've got a fiance and a year-and-a-half daughter, and walking 2 miles to work, or 5 miles to the local clinic really isn't an option. Take the car to a recycling plant and use that money as a down payment for a vehicle that'll actually run reliably in the winter... maybe a Jeep or a Dodge or something. MOPAR!!!!! lol!

On a related note, perhaps someone can tell me a way to get a free carfax report on the thing, I did a check on it and there were 10 or 20 items on it, but I couldn't see what they were because I don't have a credit card or a checking account, only savings.

EDIT: By the way, pardon my ignorance, but wth does JWKO mean?


FORGIVE ME....."USER"....lol these are a few guys on this forum that are regulars....they are both Mondertors....and quite knowledgeable in these matters.

Please don't think we are just Blowing you OFF by any means...I am still looking into this...

And believe me I have have been in your same shoes....BTW...It also gets cold in Green Bay, Wisconsin..

Give us some time to track this problem down for you, but please don't get angry with us for trying to help....

Thk u 6
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