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Old 10-16-2001, 00:57   #1 (permalink)
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Interesting link.Not many Cosworth Escorts or Sierra's in North America. http://www.alaska.net/~meacham/cossies/index.html
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Old 11-12-2001, 21:13   #2 (permalink)
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BUT THERE ARE and have been Cossies here for decades!
In fact there were Cossie Fords before Cosworth was worth mentioning!
Good Ol EnFoCo (as usual) hired Cosworth to develope the First Capri GTwhich came out in Feb 63! The motor had been reworked with Weber Carburation, Headers, Cam, bigger valves, head work, HD inside bits etc. The car gained full instrumentation, a snazzy remote shift, better upholstry and brakes(the First Disks for EnFo and probably FoMoCo.) This seems to be the only PRODUCTION two place sportscar Ford has made., another point of uniqueness.
Finally, as far as exclusivity, they only made about 2000 GT's making them one of the rarest models.
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Old 11-12-2001, 22:00   #3 (permalink)
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yes you are right youcanrace. The post was mainly referring to escorts and sierra's from europe. Cosworth also did plenty of work on the smallblock ford V8 for formula 1 racing as well.I see you posted a pic of the capri in another thread.They sound like a cool car for the day.Have you driven a cosworth one .
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Old 11-13-2001, 10:17   #4 (permalink)
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'Mornin BB'
Yes, Mine has the Cossie MkIX motor, the CR transmission, Lotus wheels, A front and rear ARB, special ratio shocks, lower suspension and so on. It has been much more developed than the GT. I found it in San Jose, Ca. about three decades ago but have never been able to determine it's history. Ford DID develop one or two like this but who knows if this is one of them. It isn't a fireball by todays standards but was competitive then. I plan to install a bolt in roll over bar and fuel cell and run it in the VARA vintage races-- It's about time that FORD has representation in the small production classes other than the Lotus Cortina sedan!
I have a 'rescue' that the PO butchered that I'll fully develop later.
I used to own Performance Research in SJ and roadrace a Lotus 7 so I have lots of goodies left over.
The GT was equivelant to the Sunbeam alpine 1500cc in size, weight and Hp and will run in the same class. I think I can beat them (presuming I can drive well enough)
BTW, which BB are you referring to? I've got a few of them here also.
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Old 11-13-2001, 13:00   #5 (permalink)
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Mornin youcanrace or "ycr ".Hey it's gunna be great hearing how you get on with the car and racing it. Perfomance Research, seems like a name i should know.A cosworth M1X motor is this the same as the MK1 cortina engine as in the precrossflow type that has had magic from cosworth done or is this one of the fancy ohc lotus types. The BB i have is a 429SCJ and if you have bits around for one of these I would be very pleased.It is in a 71 mach1 Mustang. I have seen a few MK2 lotus cortina's around here in NZ but havn't come across any MK1's but I guess they are here somewhere.
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You mean BIG BLOCK!

There's a contrast! I take it you got the SCJ elsewhere and put it into the mustang. I had a 72 Mach 1 with a pumped 429 YAHOO!
I soon figured out that one can race in all kinds of different sizes, the smaller the cheaper!
I have a Coffield MkIII with a debored (sleeved) EnFo 105E to fit into the 850cc modified class here, a 460 Lincoln Continental (as well as several others in between)
Interestingly, the Cosworth moter in the Capri GT's and the Cortina GT's (1500 cc pushrod) 78 Hp @5300 were the first motors done for FORD and didn't get a series number. The Mk-IX had several other improvements done to it over the Mk-VIII rated at 85 Hp and used in the SCCA Lotus super 7 and using one 40 DCOE.. The Mk-IX is rated at 125 Hp and has some more reliability items. It was still a streetable motor though.
In the early 60's, no one knew anything of these cosworth guys so there was no reason for Ford to brag about their Cossie motor. I believe that Ford was Cossies first big contract, before that they were primarily busy building Formula Junior motors for Lotus--no giant either then and other little companies and individual racers. I got my first motor back then, a Mk-II a 60 cu motor that made 75 Hp. (yow)
Seems you fellows there like big boomers, I've talked with several with XJ -8's with BIG BLOCKS they roadraced!
Here's a picture of a car of mine you can relate to.
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Nice pic ycr.Is it a BB.You know your cosworth's too. The Mach1 I have is a factory orig 429SCJ. I'm restoring it. I love other Fords and cars as well including cosworths. I have worked on a number of cortina's before and Anglia's which had the 105E engine.There are still alot of these cars in roadworthy condition here as car enthusiasts love them. I see plenty of them displayed at all Ford days. Great to have someone in here that knows about these cosworths.
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Factory SCJ's

Hi again BB, I didn't know that Ford offered SCJ's in the mustangs. I've got one in a 71 4 spd and a CJ/AT in a 70. Funny thing is that the 4 spd has a a'c, the At doesn't!
What's the status of the 61-64 Capri down there? I'm doing research on these.
The Anglias were a real toy when they came out-- seems a car HAS to be 'affordable' for we enthusiasts to get into it. Look at the Frogeye!
I'll be trying to sell the cobras in the Future if you know of someone that just HAS to have one-or two.
Tell me what you are looking for, the parts are easier to find here probably.
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Hey ycr.When you say status of the 61-64 I guess you are looking for numbers of cars.I havn't seen one of these for ages but I have seen them so they are here.I will talk to some of the Ford club guys and see if I can find something out.As for the 429 SCJ parts , the motor is pretty complete but i need a right side exhaust manifold and a clutch bracket that bolts to the clutch housing. I think the clutch bracket is unique to the 429 as the one I have seems to be off a 351. I plan to post this up in the mustang area as well. What was performance research involved with or should I say what happened there as it sounds real interesting. I used to be a Ford mechanic and worked on and owned a number of English Ford's mainly Cortina's.
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Status of early Capri and 427scj's

Hi BB, I have the numbers made etc but I'm trying to determine WHY they seemed to be a flop as far as enthusiasts were concerned. True the early ones has only the 1340 cc motor and a wide ratio non syncro first but they performed about the same as the other comparable cars of the period. They cost about L100 less than them also. That Cosworth,Broadspeed, Holbay etc were all developing the package would seem to have motivated enthusiasts even more!. The 1340 was too big for the <1300 class and too small for the >1500 class but the GT was optimal. Looking at the race results there, there were NO Capris running but the Sunbeam Alpine and MG's etc were. If I were going to run such a class (which I am come to think on it) with a pushrod car (ie mid priced) I'd pick a Capri over either of them. I have 6 MGB's so I can't think them trash! True, I think a Fiat 124 or an Alfa should be even better but the former is newer and the latter cost MUCH more. SO WHY are Capris such unknowns/unloved??
I'll ask a friend about the clutch arm suport bracket
Why are you running the gawd awfull heavy factory exhaust manifolds when you can run headers and help the Front end weight? Or are you making a 'numbers match concours car"
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