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Old 12-26-2004, 18:00   #1 (permalink)
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Possible engine choices for Mk II Escort

After reading about the P76's 4.4L alloy V8, it got me thinking about how cool it would be to put that engine into a Mk II Escort.

Because it's all alloy, it wouldn't ruin the weight distrubution, which was/is my biggest objection to putting bigger engines into Escorts.

But I know there would be lots of issues, one of which being the physical size of the V8, apparently it JUST fits into a TC 6cyl Cortinas engine bay, so some big modifications would be required just to fit the V8 into an Escort - if it's possible at all.

So it got me thinking about other possible engine swaps.

Most important thing, to me anyway, is making sure the weight is kept to a minimum. I know, I know, a Rotary or a turbo 4 could go in with the least hassles, but I like the idea of a NA 6 or 8. I'd like it to be a bit different to all the Mk II Engine swaps that we all hear about, SR20DETs, Turbo Rotaries, etc.

And of course, it will be driving the rear wheels.

So, with all that in mind, anybody know of any possibly canditates? P76 4.4L V8 (might be impossible due to width of engine, apparently they are pretty wide), any other alloy v8, alloy V6, any suggestions?

I would prefer to put a Ford engine in, but if there is nothing suitable, or there are better choices, then I'm open to the idea of putting in a "foreign" engine.

For the moment this is just an idea, but who knows what I might end up doing - after all, I do have two Mk II Escorts, one of which has a 1.6L Kent engine which needs to be rebuilt anyway...
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What about an MX5 engine and gearbox? 1.6 or a 1.8, nice shift, 5 sp, rear wheel drive...

There was a local escort with the alloy leyland V8 - only thing was the local rego authorities would not allow it. They did allow the capri V6 though in an RS... and that was different.
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Old 12-26-2004, 18:46   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Possible engine choices for Mk II Escort

the Lexus quad cam all alloy job fits apparently

not a 6 or 8 but what about a ZETEC engine?
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Re: Possible engine choices for Mk II Escort

I have seen anything from a 10A Rotary to a BB460 in a Escort engine bay. The biggest motor that was fitted and engineered/registered that I know of was a MKII RS2000 with a 351 Cleveland. Not for long though, rules were changed soon after.

Anything is possible, but the expense in time and money is the downfall. Then there's practicality for everyday driving (if it's a street car?). This is the only reason why so many Rotary and Jap four cylinder turbo and non turbo engines find there way into Escort engine bays. They're cheap to buy, easy to fit, to engineer, aftermarket support is huge, easy to modify, spare parts, diveability, power to weight is great, etc.. The list just goes on. To get all of the benifits of using a rotary or turbo 4cyl conversion as opposed to a 6cyl or V8 conversion would be almost impossible or too hard, or as said above, a lot more (a lot) of time and money. Ok if you have loads of cash and can pay other people to do the work, but where's the fun in that?
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I have seen anything from a 10A Rotary to a BB460 in a Escort engine bay. The biggest motor that was fitted and engineered/registered that I know of was a MKII RS2000 with a 351 Cleveland. Not for long though, rules were changed soon after.

Anything is possible, but the expense in time and money is the downfall. Then there's practicality for everyday driving (if it's a street car?). This is the only reason why so many Rotary and Jap four cylinder turbo and non turbo engines find there way into Escort engine bays. They're cheap to buy, easy to fit, to engineer, aftermarket support is huge, easy to modify, spare parts, diveability, power to weight is great, etc.. The list just goes on. To get all of the benifits of using a rotary or turbo 4cyl conversion as opposed to a 6cyl or V8 conversion would be almost impossible or too hard, or as said above, a lot more (a lot) of time and money. Ok if you have loads of cash and can pay other people to do the work, but where's the fun in that?
It's only an idea at the moment, but I was thinking about the fact that the 1.6L Kent engine in my 2 door needs to be rebuilt, and it got me thinking, why rebuild the 1600 when I could pop something else in instead?

I've got the 4 door, 2L pinto powered '76 Escort GL, which will soon be my day-to-day car, so it's not a big deal if it takes years to achieve something different in the 2 door.

I'm well aware that I would be mad to expect to be able to get back any money that I spend on it, I'm not particularly bothered about time or money with this project, more about doing something different, although I would want to be able to drive it in some way or another - even if it ended up being a race-car that I can't drive legally on the public roads - I'm not interested in building a car just for show.

I can fully understand the reasons for so many people putting in rotary and other 4 cyl engines, and I'm not ruling that path out 100% yet. I was just suprised when I read about how much the alloy v8 as used in the P76 weighed, seeing as that had been one of my main objections to putting bigger engines (like a 460bb) into an Escort engine bay.

At this stage, I'm just looking into what could be done. Not particularly interested in going rotary or jap 4 cyl, mainly because I think those conversions are too common.

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the Lexus quad cam all alloy job fits apparently

not a 6 or 8 but what about a ZETEC engine?
here is a really good site if your interested
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This certainly has my attention, thanks for the link! Very interesting.

I'd also be interested in a Cosworth DOHC 4 cyl or a Lotus twin cam engine.

I guess I'm just after some suggestions other then jap 4 cyl or rotary...
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Old 12-26-2004, 23:55   #6 (permalink)
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here in adelaide theres a 308 powered RS2000 thats fully street legal and registered coz the guy drives it to AIR for drag meets and it pulls something like 11-13 1/4 and it doesnt even sound all that worked!



theres also and orange MKII with a turbo 250 x-flow but thats only for drags as it usually is seen with massive drag slicks on the back, another quick ass car!

ive also read about a red RS2000 with a Zetec conversion, i also read that they arent cheap and without major engine mods to it you can only really get about 90-100 rwkw, imo it would be easier to convert a 2L pinto to a turbo, which im guessing could net you with 150rwkw easily depending on which setup you do (ie, turbine size adition of a large front mount intercooler etc)

if your going to use it for track then im sorry to say but ur best bet would be to use a 4cyl of some description as you will get better weight distibution hence better handling etc.

although if you want it for strip work only i would go for a 308 or larger (351 being the biggest that will fit if im not mistaken), although a turbo 4 would still be good for the 1/4 mile but dont expect anything under 11sec (and thats afta alot of cheddar has been spent)

in the end its up to you, talk with a engineer as to what can or cant be done. good luck with ya project bro, we'll have to see who finishes theirs first aye lol
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a 308!!!

someone shoot him..thats just as bad as the hemi powered mustang..what are these people thinking!

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Re: Possible engine choices for Mk II Escort

At the small ford day earlier this year in melb there was 2 escorts fitted with the Ztec engines. Fit looked good. Most are using the injection turbo conversion on the pinto's for good power.

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Re: Possible engine choices for Mk II Escort

A V8 in an escort sounds great. I miss my Mark II 2 litre Ghia, nice little car with plenty of go but had to sell it due to a growing family. With the grunt of an eight it would be awesome.

My neighbour drags a Mark I with a V8, I'll stick my head next door and find out what it is and any problems he had putting it in.
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a 308!!!

someone shoot him..thats just as bad as the hemi powered mustang..what are these people thinking!

"Yeah my ford is tough...but its powered by holden"...

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its just the same as ppl putting an SR20DET or a 13B turbo when you think about it.

and i know im prolly gonna get falmed or shot for this but.....i wouldnt mind a hemi powered 67 mustang! nothing wrong with the hemi IMHO
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