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Old 02-16-2003, 14:30   #1 (permalink)
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Question 3 Speed Vs 4 Speed

Ok My 4 speed is on the way out the door, so i have to consider my options and money.

So what kind of differences can be expected between the 3 and 4. I have never driven a 3 Speed so have no idea of performance, economy etc against the 4

So any info hear would be helpful.

Also what kind of general prices are there for a recon 3 and a recon 4.

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I'm guessing that performance would be roughly the same, however economy would suffer with the 3 speed due to one less gear ratio. At 100kmh a 3 speed will rev at 2300rpm where the 4 speed will rev at approx 1900rpm?

I can't give you exact prices but you will find reco 3 speeds to be a hell of a lot cheaper than the 4 speed.

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3 speed also has a hell tall first gear so a good take off is pretty non existant.
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Old 02-16-2003, 17:49   #4 (permalink)
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The first 3 gears of the 3 speed and 4 speed are the same, however, the 4 speed might have a slightly higher stall converter. If there if a difference, it will only be minimal.

the 3 speeds are generally tough as nails, and if you have it serviced correctly, and the kickdown adjusted well, she will shift almost as smooth as a 4 speed.

As mentioned above, biggest let down is the freeway rpm.

Prices range from $150-350 s/h.
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I would say 4 speed for a cruizer and 3 speed for grunt
had 88 fairmont ghia mpi 3 speed a few years ago and had no problems at all reved at 2500 @100kays ran through gears good
and now the series 2 ea ive got now has btr85le(4 speed)
and after a thrash or towing it plays up bad
I think they need to have larger external coolers if you are to do anything more than daily driving because they run very hot.

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Yup the 3speed auto is cheap to do, I would go a 3speed for a big horsepower setup and for a factory setup for fuel econemy 4 speed but I would go 3 speed.
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I have a 3spd auto, and while being as tough as nails, I would prefer the 4 spd. Other than economy, anyone who owns a stock 3 spd will tell you that in the first 100 - 200 meters anything will drag you off due to the gear ratio. You peg the other cars back a little when they change to second, but the distance lost at the beginning is very difficult to make up. If reliability is your concern, go for a 3 spd, else go for the 4 for dragging and economy.
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the main reason the 3 speeder feels slow off the line is it changes to second far too early ( no matter how its adjusted ) shifting it yourself overcomes this and it picks up quite nicely
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I have a 4speed in my ED, and no matter how much i flog the car, the auto has never played up. Its done roughly 230k and i have never had a prob.
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crodarian you must be one of the lucky ones. However how long have you had the car the previous (if there is one) driver may have serviced the gearbox a lot and driven like a granny.
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