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Old 03-09-2005, 02:55   #1 (permalink)
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302 in XM

hey everyone.
im weighing up my options atm and i am thinking of a few engine idea's for my xm.
Atm i lik the idea of a 302 or a 4L
i have been told that the 302 transplant is a easier one...so it is more appealing to me atm.
So for a 302 what do i need to do?
chassis kit from rod hadfield?
i already have bigger brakes and suspension is pretty much done but i want to do the shelby mod too it aswell.
i am aware that eventually i will need a better diff as the stock one wont last. But surely i can get away with the stock one to get the 302 legally reg'd?
what i really want to no is what work is involved and what needs to be done for engineering?
any help is appreciated
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Old 03-09-2005, 14:02   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 302 in XM

You need
1-disc brakes
2-2 speed wipers
3-hadfield kit
4-laminated w/screen
5-diff & tailshaft ( no point in moding stock tailshaft & then having to do another 1 when you change the diff later

6-wedges for ball joins to get corect angle so they dont bind when suspension travels upwards ( for shelby mod only )
7-radiator
8-you will need 5 stud wheels front & back
9-hadfield or rrs rack & pinion steering is a REALY good idea
( you will have to mod the steering coloum )
10-all of these mods will bolt right in without having to cut the car up
you havent said if it will be auto or manual

hope this helps

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hey
that helps heaps
I already have:
5 stud wheels front & back
disc brakes
2 speed wipers
laminated w/screen
for the diff im thinkin 9" is probly the best option
and the trans will b auto which i would lik to make floor shifted instead of column.
so wat engine mounts do you use? Or are they all the same for a 302? i want to use a windsor.
The hadfield kit you say...is that just the chassis kit or something else?
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If the car is going to be LOW a 9" is the way to go
If not a Borgwarner out of a centura will be fine
Use std XR-E V8 engine mounts
Hadfield kit is
engine mounting plates
engine cross member
gearbox gross member
radiator mounting brackets
you will also need a 2 speed fan heater & windscreen dimister
fitting a V8 in 1 of those old girls is a very easy job
std exhaust manifolds will fit or if you want extractors they are available ( same as r/h drive 64/66 mustang )

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Hadfeild make extractors for the XP/XM V8 if you want to go that way. It is fun swinging in the V8 into the engine bay. Make sure you have a good engine crank which lets you move the engine around a bit.
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Thanks for them this guys its helping heaps!
i fogot to mention it already has a 2 speed heater but i aint too sure about the demister side of things...
will the centura diff go straight in without any/little mods?
also the wedges u list above wat r they made out of? and how hard r they too make?
I like extractors more than stock manifolds so i think they r the way too go
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Diff will have to have mounts welded on
Not to hard to make once you have a look
made of steel
Things to do when fitting the engine in the car
1-jack the back of the car up as far as you can get it
this opens up the engine bay
2- when you start to put the engine into the engine bay have a mate slowly lower the back of the car as the engine is going in

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So with the diff is the track width the same?
and them wedges that are to do with the shelby mod, wat r they made from as i think you were talking about the diff mods wen u mentioned steel...sorry about the confusion
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Dunno if this helps, but there was a publication that extensively detailed this conversion - published in the 80's by Graffiti pulbications. Yellow cover with a red XP coupe on the cover.
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centura diff is the right width / track
check out this link for the front end
http://www.joesfalcon.com/frntsusp/susp1.html
should clear things up for you

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