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Old 11-15-2007, 15:35   #1 (permalink)
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Looking for info on this 429

Hey, I'm new to the site and am looking for some information on a pretty nice 429 I just bought. Im and FE guy and don't have a whole lot of knowledge on the 429/460s. Anyways, the engine looks to be a 429 PI top end with a CJ or SCJ lower end. The heads are D20E with factory screw in studs, guide plates, and aluminum valve covers. The Intake is D1AE for a spread bore carb. The lower end of the engine looks to be CJ or SCJ. It has the DOVE-A 4 bolt main block, Rods are C9AE (or OE) with forged pistons. It has the dual entry oil pump with the baffled CJ pan. I've only pulled the oil pan and valve covers, so I haven't really gotten to far into it as far as number go. It has a D0OE water pump and D0OE 2 groove water pump pulley. The damper is there and so is the pulley, but i haven't gotten the numbers of them yet. The distributor is only single point. The exhaust manifolds are there and have D2OE numbers. I got the engine at a good price with the intent of turning it over to make a buck (for more FE stuff). My question is, would I be better off rebuilding the engine as it is or parting it out? What would some of these parts bring individually? Supposedly, the engine was built as a race engine back in the day for a class were you had use all factory produced parts. The engine is complete except for the alternator, fuel pump, and power steering pump. Are CJ parts like pulleys and brackets worth anything? Also, how can I tell if the crank is CJ? What other CJ specific parts should I look out for on the engine? I picked up a 1968 429 for the guy at the same time. The part numbers on the heads are C8VE and the intake is C8SE. Are any parts from this engine desirable? Thanks!
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Old 11-23-2007, 19:26   #2 (permalink)
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The complete engine that you have sounds like a 429 PI motor in its entirety, not necessarily an SCJ bottom end. Although...the same shortblock was used for the 429PI, except for maybe the pistons (both SCJ and PI were forged, the PI pistons are dished forgings at least from 1973, don't know about 1972). I think that if you rebuild the engine, you will get less out of it than selling piece-by-piece, although breaking it up will be a shame.

Actual value varies dramatically from one end of the country to the other. Standard bore 4-bolt blocks can fetch $700-$1250 or so, PI heads from $350-$550 (although I see some people asking absurd prices for them). 429 PI intake is like the SCJ intake but without the square bore carb pad, $75-$125. 429 CJ cranksafts are nothing special, more or less a 429 passenger car crankshaft. Same with the CJ/PI rods with the spot faced (not broached) rod bolt holes.

The C8VE heads on the 429 are the same as the fabled D0VE heads from 1970, current market $200 +/-. The C8VE-B block is one that I like although you don't see many people looking for them specifically.

The rest is essentially stock 429/460 parts....unless some PI restorer needs some special brackets...

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