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Old 09-23-2005, 04:06   #1 (permalink)
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EB2 idle prob

Hey guys.
Having a little drama with the EB Monty.

Couple of days ago it developed a rough idle problem where the exhaust will make a constant "Choof Choof" sound (Thats the only way i can describe it LOL) and of course the car will shake.

Seems fine over 1000rpm

Just had rear section of exhaust (res box) replaced last weekend.

Any thoughts?

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Old 09-23-2005, 07:05   #2 (permalink)
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G'day,
i always start with engine electrics for these problems.

Rotor button, dizzy cap, leads and plugs. (quite often this fixes it)

After that, is a question of injectors of a start.

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Old 09-23-2005, 09:47   #3 (permalink)
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injectors,"o"rings,leads,map sensor hose split or leaking,plugs.
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Old 09-23-2005, 15:14   #4 (permalink)
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injectors,"o"rings,leads,map sensor hose split or leaking,plugs.
There's a disconnected molex connector near the map sensor, but it doesnt apear to connect to anything within reach?. It kind of branches off another set of wires on the same loom.

Plugs and leads - If it was either one of these, wouldnt it miss or hesitate off a standing start etc?. It's not doing that at all.

I just had a poke around and removed the air fliter for a quick clean. Put it back in, started the engine and it's fine. (for now)

How likely is a clogged air filter as the culprit?. Although it didn't seem overly filthy.

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Old 09-23-2005, 16:43   #5 (permalink)
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Leaking inlet manifold gasket??
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Old 09-23-2005, 20:14   #6 (permalink)
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Ugh. Add the symptom of condensation and water coming out of the exhaust pipe and what do we have?

Head gasket

Bloody excellent. :(

Going in on Monday, $700
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pity to hear mate :(

So is it making cappuccino around the dipstick as well?
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G'day,
you raise some interesting points.
Whilst i am pretty knowlegable, i don't profess to know it all...and am keen to continue this discsusion for the benefit of all.

With the mention of headgasket your initial post appears a little vague.
IF i was to think headgasket, i would be forced to ask the obvious...is it using water??

You mention steam out the pipe. they all seem to do this, as the rear resonator (which you replaced) acts as a water collector...they ALL rust out. My next question to you, or in problem evaluation....does it clear afer 5-10 minutes....if it does, then its condesation in the res...if it doesn't then the lean is towards head gasket.
Someone mentioned water infected oil. On E-series this is not common with head gasket (but not unheard of) . Water affected oil/coolant is normally a cracked head.

If you are using water, then a pressure test is required to eliminate hoses etc. another sign for a headgasket with rough running is a water washed spark splug. For this to happen the gasket has to be leaking into a cylinder (for milky oil its into an oil gallery..not comon on E-series). Leaking into a cylinder however is...normally #1. eventually if bad enough, you will get to the point where you hit the key and it will spin and go clunk, and hen it won't spin....as the cylinder is full of water..and water is considered incompresible. (have PERSONALLY experienced this)

700 sounds a tad expensive....but if they are going to send your head away for testing, then its about right. From the sound of what you have described, you haven't cooked it, so the head should pass....if it doesn't then expect extra!.


On the unconnected plug. If you cannot find a joiner for it, then it is probably there for an extra not fitted to your car. Ford often use common looms, whereby they provide wiring for extra's, so you wind up with a multitude of unconnected wiring....take a look between the brake booster and rear apron........most of these are for diagnostics......apparent unconnecteds!

without a pic of your unused plug, and the full wire colours i have no hope of telling you what its for.

If you want to know....send me a pm/email with a pic and wire colours and i'll look it up and tell you

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Old 09-24-2005, 16:21   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks for your post mate. Very interesting reading :)

Oil looks fine. Coolant has been leaking slowly for around 12 months. Preasure test revealed buggered O ring on radiator side tank.

Figured it just needed topping up every 2 weeks, so wasnt a drama that needed attention right away.

Now it's usuing much more coolant of course.

As for the price. Its more of a convenience factor for us. The machanic is just down the end of the street, and my missus can take the train to work for a couple of days.

Just spoke to my sister and she said her hubby got a batch of bad fuel the other week, and had the same symptoms exept for the steam and water out the back lol.

Anyway, will see what the situation is tomorrow.

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Old 09-24-2005, 16:26   #10 (permalink)
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PS: Jas
Yes, as for the oil looking fine. Your theory re gasket leaking water into a cyl sounds feasible.

Is this able to be confirmed simply by removing and inspecting the plugs?

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