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Old 05-10-2002, 18:37   #1 (permalink)
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Well i now I've got Grampa's EA and she's one rip snorter and she rocks. I used to drive Jap cars and now I've realised what I've been missing -space. Not to mention the donk underneath she has some grunt makes my old Suzuki Swift feel so inadequate.

This forum is so much better than those ricer web (especially HSV web sites)sites and there are allot of 'decent' people here. Suppose Falcon people don't worry what those other wankers think. Everybody knocks the Falcon and I don't see what all the fuss Is about. Folks owned a V and it was a POS. This car just feels fantastic (suppose its the people who look after it :) ) Well all now I want to do is either turbo the motor or bang a Windsor V8 into it :) Maybe give her a nice new black duco too. Now all I need is some more money :(

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Old 05-10-2002, 20:26   #2 (permalink)
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Dear Fonz,

You have one excellent Grandpa! ... well done.

Methinks 302 with twin-screw blower and the wizzbang valve setup!... but there goes the drive train and suspension.... anyway ... maybe a semi-automatic sequential gearbox with as many gears as you like and Elle McPherson for breakfast!

... shit no!..

... a 351 with Holley sixpac and a long-range fueltank! ... as well as a long range credit card!

... its a great ride!

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Old 05-11-2002, 23:37   #3 (permalink)
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just add NOS too it........you'll be happy.

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Old 05-16-2002, 08:55   #4 (permalink)
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Congratulations on the purchase. The first thing I'd consider is a 5 or 6 speed manual conversion, because the chances are than even a V8 3 speed would be slower than a 3.9 5 speed.
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Old 05-27-2002, 19:19   #5 (permalink)
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hmm decisions.

Lets see now I got me window spray washers working (kinda handy in all this rain) as the other one packed up. I've put another hos eto the radiator to make it run cooler at speed as well, very handy :D Now im looking for some alloy wheels. I'll probably only get 15" Fairmont Ghia Mags or those EAII/XF Fairmont 14" ones. Or some nice 5 star Falcon S if im lucky.

I think I'll take illsy advice and got for a 5sp T5 tranny first before I really soup it up. Grandpa Henry much along the same lines. Im also undecided on Grandpa Henry bolting in the mpEFi unit as he said you'll lose top end power on the car.

The CFI unit he says accelerates faster than Mpefi after 120kmph due to it having two bloody big injectors which shoot contant flow where MpEfi regulates flow, even on kickdown to conserve fuel. Lathough he said you can change this on the ECU if you want but its tricky. I might put in a high flow XF quad injector job, she'll gain at least 10kw but she'll suck plenty of juice but! As I do lots of country miles I don't want to loose top end power and fuel economy ain't that bad. As for the difference between a 3 speed and 4 their generally is non, apart from higher rev'n on the freeway unless you put it in 4th you still will need to kickdown for more power past 140kmph, so a 3 sp is ok generally and I'll go for a 5sp t5 first.

As for other goodies I think i'll go for a bolt on vortec gearcharger, though they cost 3,500 new. So im thinking about instead putting a V8 Windsor in, it would be allot cheaper and much more reliable. I could source a nice wrecked motor and then i'll have to rebuild it. That and the mounting brackets and the ECUu, D/T and the ..... you all know the drill.


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Old 05-27-2002, 19:27   #6 (permalink)
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I agree that MPI is a big improvement in almost all circumstances based on what I have heard. But it sounds like Fonz's car is not standard, so the usual MPI/CFI comparisons don't apply.
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Just clearing up a few things.

Hmm

Well as Illsy said my car is not your mild mannered EA CFi beast.
This car was Grandpa Henry's baby and he treated it as such and when I went for a test drive of it I was sold on the spot.
The motor has been blueprinted as of factory, top quality springs and valves, mod'd cylinder block, crank etc. She also has a Crow cam and H&M headers running off a 2.5 zorst. She dished out 126KW (6kW up) without the zorst or header. Even with these basic mods I humilated a mates VS Comodorre up the road :D
I gained 2Kw from the Cam and 5KW+ from the extractor exhuast system. That makes a nice 133KW. Since its a nice and light GL even with a 3speed (just reconditioned) it goes quite nicely.

Grandpa Henry also played with the CFI unit which had its ancestry from a XF incidently. There are heaps of XF injector goodies and Mr Henry could not help but fit them! Grandpa thinks I gained about at least 2kw in the cfi mods. So thats 135kw, 4kw shy of a MPEFI! Who said you needed MPEFi? It always raw metal that gives real 'power' not just computer goodies.

It guzzles a bit more fuel 520 city and 690 country but she does 0-100 at last stopwatch check in 8.1 seconds. He howver has timed the CFI unit to provide allot more help in the top end as well as I've discovered. When I get the car into Grampa Henrys auto -joint for its first motor service he will put the MPEFI unit in them, me thinks. Im hoping for 154 tyre fying kilowatts. Grandpa said he's playing with the mPEFI flues so i might get some extra help as well.....

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Well as Illsy said my car is not your mild mannered EA CFi beast.
This car was Grandpa Henry's baby and he treated it as such and when I went for a test drive of it I was sold on the spot.
The motor has been blueprinted as of factory, top quality springs and valves, mod'd cylinder block, crank etc. She also has a Crow cam and H&M headers running off a 2.5 zorst. She dished out 126KW (6kW up) without the zorst or header. Even with these basic mods I humilated a mates VS Comodorre up the road :D
I gained 2Kw from the Cam and 5KW+ from the extractor exhuast system. That makes a nice 133KW. Since its a nice and light GL even with a 3speed (just reconditioned) it goes quite nicely.

Grandpa Henry also played with the CFI unit which had its ancestry from a XF incidently. There are heaps of XF injector goodies and Mr Henry could not help but fit them! Grandpa thinks I gained about at least 2kw in the cfi mods. So thats 135kw, 4kw shy of a MPEFI! Who said you needed MPEFi? It always raw metal that gives real 'power' not just computer goodies.

It guzzles a bit more fuel 520 city and 690 country but she does 0-100 at last stopwatch check in 8.1 seconds. He howver has timed the CFI unit to provide allot more help in the top end as well as I've discovered. When I get the car into Grampa Henrys auto -joint for its first motor service he will put the MPEFI unit in them, me thinks. Im hoping for 154 tyre fying kilowatts. Grandpa said he's playing with the mPEFI flues so i might get some extra help as well.....

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It appears most of your power gains come from other mods, the MPEFI will be way better.

CFI related the XF? not sure on that, XF's had MPEFI which would be more related to EA's MPEFI if anything. From memory, the CFI injectors are unusual in that they need the mounting bracketry to work correctly?

Your fuel economy is excellent, I could never get anything better than around 450/tank city in a CFI EA 4spd auto, and my EF XR6 manual gives about 530/tank city

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I Get 520ks and 690 freeway best when I drive like a miserly uni student. Otherwise generally its around 490 city 610 freeway.
This is very wierd Kieron your XR6 should be allot more economical?

Having EEc-V and all that stuff. Mate has a stock standard EF Gli and gets 590 and 720 freeway best and 530/670 worst.I don't know what he gets when he travells like hells demons! I suggest you check out your injectors /EFI flues your fuel consumtion is shocking! Maybe you cam is also due for a serious tune as well. I rip the cam open every year to see if everything is A-OK.

Unless you drive with a lead foot ofcourse. Well when my CFI runs like that I get 350 city (running on fumes here!) and 390 when my car is travelling like a 'aircraft' on a country highway late at night.
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I Get 520ks and 690 freeway best when I drive like a miserly uni student. Otherwise generally its around 490 city 610 freeway.
This is very wierd Kieron your XR6 should be allot more economical?

Having EEc-V and all that stuff. Mate has a stock standard EF Gli and gets 590 and 720 freeway best and 530/670 worst.I don't know what he gets when he travells like hells demons! I suggest you check out your injectors /EFI flues your fuel consumtion is shocking! Maybe you cam is also due for a serious tune as well. I rip the cam open every year to see if everything is A-OK.

Unless you drive with a lead foot ofcourse. Well when my CFI runs like that I get 350 city (running on fumes here!) and 390 when my car is travelling like a 'aircraft' on a country highway late at night.
I don't drive it with economy in mind, use A/C whenever, give it a poke every now and again etc.
Its never got any better than this with my kind of driving, bought it at 59,000k's, now has 129,000k's, has brand new injectors, engine on these can't be tuned, it's dizzyless, can only set base idle.

Best i've ever got around town calculates down to 11.5/100 and thats running the tank down to 8 litres left, ie squeezed 61 litres in at the pump. This is pretty much in line with road tests I have read, so i'm happy with it.




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