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Anyone that takes a new car and turns it into a drone box deserves to be defected.
Engineers spend a lot of time and money to make the car go and sound as good as possible with the thought of passing all tests,then people think they are smarter than the engineers go and fit aftermarket exhausts that dont match cam specs and everything else.
If you want a loud car do it to an old one and even then you are restricted.So why do people keep doing this when they know it is illegal?
Sounds like you work for the EPA, or your just a tosser.
I could comment on all the other crap you said but I can't be bothered to go head to head with you on this one.
Anyone that takes a new car and turns it into a drone box deserves to be defected.
Engineers spend a lot of time and money to make the car go and sound as good as possible with the thought of passing all tests,then people think they are smarter than the engineers go and fit aftermarket exhausts that dont match cam specs and everything else.
If you want a loud car do it to an old one and even then you are restricted.So why do people keep doing this when they know it is illegal?
Lol, surely this is pretty obvious to an expert such as yourself?
When ford build a car, they have different intentions than people like myself. They want a quiet car and are willing to sacrifice some power in doing so. I find this unnaceptable so i replace their exhaust with something which provides me with what i want - more power at the expense of quietness.
Kapish?
Btw - my car is not a "drone box" despite the fact ive replaced the exhaust. SA members will attest to this.
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Anyone that takes a new car and turns it into a drone box deserves to be defected.
Engineers spend a lot of time and money to make the car go and sound as good as possible with the thought of passing all tests,then people think they are smarter than the engineers go and fit aftermarket exhausts that dont match cam specs and everything else.
If you want a loud car do it to an old one and even then you are restricted.So why do people keep doing this when they know it is illegal?
Mate you must have cast iron balls to make a comment like that on this forum. I could be wrong but I would've thought that the majority of people that are members of FF have modified exhausts that would fail EPA tests.
The sponsor of this forum is a distributor of the product that GTP193 has on his car.....are you going to ring them and tell them that they shouldn't be selling Herrod products because they're too loud ??
Whilst your at it...why don't you ring Pioneer, Sony, Kenwood and any other car stereo manufacturer and tell them that shouldn't sell their products because they're too loud.
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Sounds like you work for the EPA, or your just a tosser.
I could comment on all the other crap you said but I can't be bothered to go head to head with you on this one.
I dont work for the EPA,I am a tosser have been since I was 11 I think.
Crap or not it is my opinion and if you cant handle people giving different opinions thats your problem not mine.
At least I am not trying to slander someone for having a different opinion.
Cheers Fox.
Not what anyone meant Fox. Your opinions are valid but surely you knew the answer to the question you posted (why do people make their cars loud?). You set the bait, now ya gotta attend to the trap.
Slander is a very strong word....
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Engineers spend a lot of time and money to make the car go and sound as good as possible with the thought of passing all tests
Actually, they are quite often given a strict budget and told to do the best they can. 99.9% of the time any "factory" exhaust is totally compromised both in power and noise reduction.
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then people think they are smarter than the engineers go and fit aftermarket exhausts that dont match cam specs and everything else.
Its more a case that people do this as they have a bit more money to spend than the $X that a manufacturer is able to spend per car. It doesnt mean that they are smarter, just that they are prepred to spend the money on better items than the factory was.
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Originally Posted by FOX
If you want a loud car do it to an old one and even then you are restricted.So why do people keep doing this when they know it is illegal?
It's not illegal. I know for a fact that my car, with full aftermarket exhaust, gained significant power while still easily remaining under the legal noise limit.
So, if I want to be cocky, I'd say that yes, in this case I am smarter than the Tickford engineers who put on the stock system. Of course this isnt true, I'm not smarter, I just had a better budget to play with.
Mate you must have cast iron balls to make a comment like that on this forum. I could be wrong but I would've thought that the majority of people that are members of FF have modified exhausts that would fail EPA tests.
The sponsor of this forum is a distributor of the product that GTP193 has on his car.....are you going to ring them and tell them that they shouldn't be selling Herrod products because they're too loud ??
Whilst your at it...why don't you ring Pioneer, Sony, Kenwood and any other car stereo manufacturer and tell them that shouldn't sell their products because they're too loud.
Let me put it to you this way,I am 40 years old with 2 young kids.
I hate whene my kids are in bed and some fool drives past the house with a car that sounds like a tank and wakes up the neighbourhoud,is that fair on everyone else,or even on the street when your cruising minding your own business and then a tank drives past and blows your ear drums.
I own and race a 500 hp XW GT,but I dont drive it on the street because I have respact for the people around me.
As for the people that sell them,do you think they care people sell radar detectors,tramp rods anything money can buy, whats that got to do with it.
If someone is dump eneough to buy it and put it on there car there will always be soeone out there to take your money.
I knew I would gat a reaction.
Cheers Fox.
Exactly right Casper exhaust is one of the areas most car manufacturers scrimp on they are generally designed to be fitted as quickly & easily as possible rather then best performance, fuel ecconomy or emissions. It is the same as most cars come with nasty brakes & tyres which can quite easily be upgraded to increase safety but because most road users have no idea of these areas it is not a priority to companies who just want to sell as many cars as possible & make the most money they can from each sale just as in any business.
Saying that there is many people you see out there with no idea about there cars but modify them anyway & do end up with cars worse then to begin with but to saying that anything can't be improved on is quite naive
I also agree that is annoying when youi get woken up in the night by loud cars, slamming doors, thunder,tyre roar from 4wds or whatever & there is lots of other things I could list that I don't like too but so what, just because I don't like it doesn't mean the people deserve to be persecuted for doing what they enjoy or beleive in.
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