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Old 01-21-2004, 19:21   #1 (permalink)
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New exhaust - how much power?

Hi people, I'm relatively new to these forums and view them often. Please forgive me if I'm dragging up an old subject but I've tried to do a search without any real success.

Ok, now to the subject. I'm hunting for a new exhaust system for my wagon. The best offer I've found is $1060 for competition Pacemakers and a 2.5 inch single exhaust with a Lukey muffler and res. He said he would use the old cats (car has done 140000km).

Does this sound like a good offer? And more importantly, what sort of power would I expect?
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Re: New exhaust - how much power?

I dont think a single 2.5in is big enough for a 5L. Try atleast 3in, or if the wallet permits, dual 2.5 (out either side :p would look good on a wagon)

But to answer you question, it sounds like a good price to me.
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Re: New exhaust - how much power?

In some respects I have to agree with Martin here. The 5ltrs need as much help with their exhaust systems as possible considering their heads are a gret contributer for restriction. That makes me think, I should really upgrade my exhaust soon.

But I have heard on another thread that CAPA do a twin 2.5" exhaust from the cats back and they go into a 3" just b4 the diff, all this for $640. Supplied only. That in itself would be a nicer setup IMO.
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Re: New exhaust - how much power?

Yeah Martin I always thought a single 2.5 would be too small. The thought of a twin system did cross my mind, the bloke I got the quote off told me there wasn't enough room underneath. I had a look and found that the only real drama would be the filler tube for the petrol tank. I think it should fit though if they route the exhaust below it, but dont ask me about the heat though.

That sounds as though its a good deal Blueoval, for $640 does that include the mufflers? What sort of power would be expected from a single 3" or twin 2.5" system with pacemakers?
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mufflers or not $640 plus $550 odd for your pacemakers plus another $100 or $200 for fitting... $1060 seems a better deal to me even allowing an extra $200 for 3" tube
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As far as power is concerned Im not too sure but blokes like fordfan351 has that system I was talking about, and it sounds awesome. Its got the tone without the drone, and it fits over the diff nicely.

tibbo - you could go the cheaper option if thats all he can afford, but I was just giving barnacus another option if money wasnt a huge object. For example, EDXR8 has a 3" single Lukey system fitted to his worked 5ltr and that too has an awesome note for a cheap option. But in the end its up to barnacus and what he can afford. We are just here to help him with his decision.

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Re: New exhaust - how much power?

3" will not give you anything until you are at around 220kw at the engine. It has been tested over and over again. Single 2 1/2" system will give you the best result on stock to mild 5.0L. I would also suggest going for the standard pacemakers, not the competition ones. The standard ones will give you a lot more torque down low and flow plenty up high too.
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I'm tending to lean towards something like that CAPA one that Blueoval suggested, so this system combined with the "normal" rather than the comp. pacemakers like EDXR8 suggested, would it be fair to say that I would at the very least gain 15% of the 165kW that I have at the moment??

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Yeah thats a good combination. Thats exactly (or nearly) the same as fordfan351's car. He has pacemakers (street) with twin 2.5" to a twin entry muffler and exiting thru a 3" tail pipe just before the diff. CAPA will have a very similar setup.

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Re: New exhaust - how much power?

I gained 11rwkw on my stock engine with a 2 1/2" system with extractors and high flow cats, so thats about 10% improvement but it's not just up high, power increases right through the rev range.

Also, the capa setup is exactly the same as the Lukey one I posted the pic of. It has twin 2 1/2" off the extractors that go straight into a single 3" pipe then through a 3" muffler and resonator.

Found a pic of the CAPA exhaust ----> pic

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