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Old 08-21-2005, 03:01   #1 (permalink)
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5w-30 oil

Is anybody using 5w-30 motor oil in their Focus? Any problems with it?
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Old 08-21-2005, 03:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 5w-30 oil

Vic Dura wrote:

> Is anybody using 5w-30 motor oil in their Focus?


Yes. (In UK)

> Any problems with it?


Why would there be?

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Old 08-21-2005, 08:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: 5w-30 oil

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 09:22:42 GMT, Chris Whelan
<cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil:

>Vic Dura wrote:
>
>> Is anybody using 5w-30 motor oil in their Focus?

>
>Yes. (In UK)
>
>> Any problems with it?

>
>Why would there be?


I was just wondering. I can't think of why there would be a problem,
but I'm not expert on these matters. I'm in the U.S. with a new Focus
(2005) and planning to use the 5w30 instead of the 5w20 because I
can't find the 5w20 in gallon containers locally.
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Old 08-21-2005, 08:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 5w-30 oil

Vic Dura wrote:

> On Sun, 21 recommendedd9:22:42 GMT, Chris Whelan
> <cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil:
>
>>Vic Dura wrote:
>>
>>> Is anybody using 5w-30 motor oil in their Focus?

>>
>>Yes. (In UK)
>>
>>> Any problems with it?

>>
>>Why would there be?

>
> I was just wondering. I can't think of why there would be a problem,
> but I'm not expert on these matters. I'm in the U.S. with a new Focus
> (2005) and planning to use the 5w30 instead of the 5w20 because I
> can't find the 5w20 in gallon containers locally.


I see. In Europe, 5w30 semi- or fully-synthetic is the recommended grade.
The change interval is 12,500 miles, which is probably a bit higher than in
the U.S.

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Old 08-21-2005, 11:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: 5w-30 oil

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 14:39:30 GMT, Chris Whelan
<cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil:

>Vic Dura wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 recommendedd9:22:42 GMT, Chris Whelan
>> <cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil:
>>
>>>Vic Dura wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is anybody using 5w-30 motor oil in their Focus?
>>>
>>>Yes. (In UK)
>>>
>>>> Any problems with it?
>>>
>>>Why would there be?

>>
>> I was just wondering. I can't think of why there would be a problem,
>> but I'm not expert on these matters. I'm in the U.S. with a new Focus
>> (2005) and planning to use the 5w30 instead of the 5w20 because I
>> can't find the 5w20 in gallon containers locally.

>
>I see. In Europe, 5w30 semi- or fully-synthetic is the recommended grade.
>The change interval is 12,500 miles, which is probably a bit higher than in
>the U.S.
>


That's interesting. In the U.S. the recommendations are 5w20 oil with
a change interval ranging from 3,000 miles for mostly urban driving to
7,000 miles for mostly "highway" driving. I seem to recall the owner's
manual mentioning a longer interval for the synthetic oils but don't
recall off-hand what it is.

BTW, since you are in the U.K. I wonder if I might ask if Sunbeam and
Truimph autos are still made there? I don't follow autos much any more
but my first car was a 1961 Sunbeam Alpine I purchased in 1965 and my
second car was a 1965 Triumph TR4 that I purchased in 1968.

I loved both of those cars.
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Old 08-21-2005, 12:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: 5w-30 oil (now very OT!)

> BTW, since you are in the U.K. I wonder if I might ask if Sunbeam and
> Truimph autos are still made there? I don't follow autos much any more
> but my first car was a 1961 Sunbeam Alpine I purchased in 1965 and my
> second car was a 1965 Triumph TR4 that I purchased in 1968.
>
> I loved both of those cars.


Both long gone I'm afraid.

In fact, the Sunbeam company went bankrupt in 1943, but the name was sold to
the Rootes group. (Hillman, Humber et al). Rootes in turn sold 30% of the
company to Chrysler in 1964. The last Sunbeam produced was the 1978 Rapier,
although the Sunbeam name was used for a small Chrysler hatchback at the
end of the '70's. Peugot now have the rights to the name I believe.

The Triumph factory was destroyed during bombing in WW2. The name was bought
by the Standard Motor Company.In 1956 the company became Standard-Triumph,
then was sold to Leyland Motors in 1961. The last Triumph car was the
TR7/8, finishing production in 1982. The name was last used on a rebadged
version of the Honda Ballade, called the Triumph Acclaim. The brand name is
now owned by BMW.

I too loved British sports cars from the era you mention, especially the
Alpine.

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Old 08-21-2005, 14:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: 5w-30 oil

In alt.autos.ford.focus Vic Dura <vpdura@clutterhiwaay.net>:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 14:39:30 GMT, Chris Whelan
> <cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil:


>>Vic Dura wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 21 recommendedd9:22:42 GMT, Chris Whelan
>>> <cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil:
>>>
>>>>Vic Dura wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is anybody using 5w-30 motor oil in their Focus?
>>>>
>>>>Yes. (In UK)
>>>>
>>>>> Any problems with it?
>>>>
>>>>Why would there be?
>>>
>>> I was just wondering. I can't think of why there would be a problem,
>>> but I'm not expert on these matters. I'm in the U.S. with a new Focus
>>> (2005) and planning to use the 5w30 instead of the 5w20 because I
>>> can't find the 5w20 in gallon containers locally.

>>
>>I see. In Europe, 5w30 semi- or fully-synthetic is the recommended grade.
>>The change interval is 12,500 miles, which is probably a bit higher than in
>>the U.S.


AFAIK 5w30 full-synthetic once a year or every 20000 km (~12500
miles) whatever comes first for petrol engines.

> That's interesting. In the U.S. the recommendations are 5w20 oil with
> a change interval ranging from 3,000 miles for mostly urban driving to
> 7,000 miles for mostly "highway" driving. I seem to recall the owner's
> manual mentioning a longer interval for the synthetic oils but don't
> recall off-hand what it is.


Curious, had a Ford Sierra turbo diesel before and it had smaller
interval as usual for a diesel engine 10000 km (~6250 miles)
oil+filter. Always went with the recommendation, it had done
about 240000km (~150000 miles) when I bought the Focus and the
engine was still running like new.

But then, any Ford owned by me was almost fallen apart from rust,
while the engine was still running like a charm. Don't expect the
Focus to behave any different. Had already fixed rust on the rear
door (Ghia wagon) by Ford through rust warranty. 12 years can be
pretty long, so we'll see what comes next?

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Old 08-21-2005, 14:01   #8 (permalink)
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I have used Amsoil Synthetic 5W30 oil with no problems on my 02 Focus
SE (Station Wagon). One oil change per year (Amsoil suggested
schedule) and now 87000 miles. Almost no oil used between changes.
One quarts added for the 6 month filter change. (1 quart).

USA, Southeastern Michigan.

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Old 08-21-2005, 14:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: 5w-30 oil (now very OT!)

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:37:39 GMT, Chris Whelan
<cawhelan@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil (now very
OT!):

>> BTW, since you are in the U.K. I wonder if I might ask if Sunbeam and
>> Truimph autos are still made there? I don't follow autos much any more
>> but my first car was a 1961 Sunbeam Alpine I purchased in 1965 and my
>> second car was a 1965 Triumph TR4 that I purchased in 1968.
>>
>> I loved both of those cars.

>
>Both long gone I'm afraid.
>
>In fact, the Sunbeam company went bankrupt in 1943, but the name was sold to
>the Rootes group. (Hillman, Humber et al). Rootes in turn sold 30% of the
>company to Chrysler in 1964. The last Sunbeam produced was the 1978 Rapier,
>although the Sunbeam name was used for a small Chrysler hatchback at the
>end of the '70's. Peugot now have the rights to the name I believe.
>
>The Triumph factory was destroyed during bombing in WW2. The name was bought
>by the Standard Motor Company.In 1956 the company became Standard-Triumph,
>then was sold to Leyland Motors in 1961. The last Triumph car was the
>TR7/8, finishing production in 1982. The name was last used on a rebadged
>version of the Honda Ballade, called the Triumph Acclaim. The brand name is
>now owned by BMW.
>
>I too loved British sports cars from the era you mention, especially the
>Alpine.


Oh yes, thanks for refreshing my memory. I do remember the names
"Roots" and "Leyland" now that you mentioned it; although I didn't
know the history. Too bad they are gone now. They were both a joy to
drive and easy to work on. I especially liked the looks on people's
faces when the battery on the Alpine would get weak and I would pull
out the crank to turn the engine over by hand.
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Old 08-21-2005, 15:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: 5w-30 oil OK

I have used ordinary 5W30 oil for the last 5 years in my 2001 Zetec Focus.
With no problems.

In hot climates 10W30 should be used.

Ford specifies 5W20 so as to meet CAFE requirements as far a fuel
efficiency, apparently you can get about .01% more miles to the gallon. Big
deal. This is a no brainer on what to use 5W20 oil is at least double the
price of regular 5W30, same protection..


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