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Old 06-26-2005, 11:01   #1 (permalink)
Mike
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TDCi Easy to Stall

I have just replaced my 1999 Focus 1.8 LX with a new Focus TDCI 115 (last of
old model). Initially I found it very easy to stall when setting off from
stationary and have not stalled it in the last week or two. However today I
was turning right into a very busy road with not many gaps and I managed to
stall it. This left me a foot into the main road and the car behind nearly
shunting me as he I guess was going to follow me out.

I had the air con on and the car has now done 1450miles. Does any one else
have this problem or would like to comment. It could just be a "different"
driving experience but I drove a Golf TDi for around a week and had no
problems.

Please reply to the group - Location North East UK.


Thanks - Mike


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Old 06-27-2005, 00:01   #2 (permalink)
Stephen F.
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Re: TDCi Easy to Stall


"Mike" <notavailable@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d9mpm0$s1t$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>I have just replaced my 1999 Focus 1.8 LX with a new Focus TDCI 115 (last
>of old model). Initially I found it very easy to stall when setting off
>from stationary and have not stalled it in the last week or two. However
>today I was turning right into a very busy road with not many gaps and I
>managed to stall it. This left me a foot into the main road and the car
>behind nearly shunting me as he I guess was going to follow me out.
>
> I had the air con on and the car has now done 1450miles. Does any one else
> have this problem or would like to comment. It could just be a "different"
> driving experience but I drove a Golf TDi for around a week and had no
> problems.
>
> Please reply to the group - Location North East UK.
>


Even two years into ownership I have to admit I occasionally stall it. I
had the engine management program updated, which helped, but it still
catches me out from time to time. Oddly, once you have it rolling in first
gear, it has quite a good "anti-stall" program, allowing it to chug along at
800rpm or so. Part of the problem is that Ford used a dual weight flywheel
which has a bad unbalance at very low revs, so the computer is programmed to
kill the engine if it looks like the revs are going to dip really low.



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Old 06-27-2005, 03:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: TDCi Easy to Stall

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:01:21 +0200, "Stephen F."
<ferguson@NOJUNKbluewin.ch> wrote:
>
>Even two years into ownership I have to admit I occasionally stall it. I
>had the engine management program updated, which helped, but it still
>catches me out from time to time. Oddly, once you have it rolling in first
>gear, it has quite a good "anti-stall" program, allowing it to chug along at
>800rpm or so. Part of the problem is that Ford used a dual weight flywheel
>which has a bad unbalance at very low revs, so the computer is programmed to
>kill the engine if it looks like the revs are going to dip really low.
>

I frequently stall mine (TDCi 100) but I'm used to petrol engines - I
also stalled a Golf TDI which I hired a little while ago.

Can you tell us more about the engine management program update
please?

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David Millen
Xativa, Valencia
www.fincacasablanca.com
please reply in group
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Old 06-27-2005, 05:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: TDCi Easy to Stall


"David Millen" <notdmillen@newsfeeds.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:01:21 +0200, "Stephen F."
> <ferguson@NOJUNKbluewin.ch> wrote:
>>
>>Even two years into ownership I have to admit I occasionally stall it. I
>>had the engine management program updated, which helped, but it still
>>catches me out from time to time. Oddly, once you have it rolling in
>>first
>>gear, it has quite a good "anti-stall" program, allowing it to chug along
>>at
>>800rpm or so. Part of the problem is that Ford used a dual weight
>>flywheel
>>which has a bad unbalance at very low revs, so the computer is programmed
>>to
>>kill the engine if it looks like the revs are going to dip really low.
>>

> I frequently stall mine (TDCi 100) but I'm used to petrol engines - I
> also stalled a Golf TDI which I hired a little while ago.
>
> Can you tell us more about the engine management program update
> please?
>


Next time you're in for service just ask if the engine management has the
latest program version. It's a flashable ROM in the ECU. The service tech
just plugs in the diagnostic computer and uploads the new software.


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Old 06-27-2005, 08:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: TDCi Easy to Stall

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:10:49 +0200, "Stephen F."
<ferguson@NOJUNKbluewin.ch> wrote:
>Next time you're in for service just ask if the engine management has the
>latest program version. It's a flashable ROM in the ECU. The service tech
>just plugs in the diagnostic computer and uploads the new software.
>

Thanks, Stephen.

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All the best
David Millen
Xativa, Valencia
www.fincacasablanca.com
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Old 06-27-2005, 15:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: TDCi Easy to Stall

I've had mine for 2 years now.

It can catch you out, particularly when not warmed up - especially if the
aircon is on also.

I found the "surge" effect after you change up quite pronounced at first,
however I dont notice it all all now.

I have found the feel of the engine can change markedly after a service too.


"Mike" <notavailable@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d9mpm0$s1t$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>I have just replaced my 1999 Focus 1.8 LX with a new Focus TDCI 115 (last
>of old model). Initially I found it very easy to stall when setting off
>from stationary and have not stalled it in the last week or two. However
>today I was turning right into a very busy road with not many gaps and I
>managed to stall it. This left me a foot into the main road and the car
>behind nearly shunting me as he I guess was going to follow me out.
>
> I had the air con on and the car has now done 1450miles. Does any one else
> have this problem or would like to comment. It could just be a "different"
> driving experience but I drove a Golf TDi for around a week and had no
> problems.
>
> Please reply to the group - Location North East UK.
>
>
> Thanks - Mike
>



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Old 06-28-2005, 15:01   #7 (permalink)
Mike
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Re: TDCi Easy to Stall

Thanks for all the replies and info.

Mike


"Mike" <notavailable@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d9mpm0$s1t$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>I have just replaced my 1999 Focus 1.8 LX with a new Focus TDCI 115 (last
>of old model). Initially I found it very easy to stall when setting off
>from stationary and have not stalled it in the last week or two. However
>today I was turning right into a very busy road with not many gaps and I
>managed to stall it. This left me a foot into the main road and the car
>behind nearly shunting me as he I guess was going to follow me out.
>
> I had the air con on and the car has now done 1450miles. Does any one else
> have this problem or would like to comment. It could just be a "different"
> driving experience but I drove a Golf TDi for around a week and had no
> problems.
>
> Please reply to the group - Location North East UK.
>
>
> Thanks - Mike
>



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Old 06-28-2005, 15:01   #8 (permalink)
Mike
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Re: TDCi Easy to Stall

Thanks for all the replies and info.

Mike


"David Millen" <notdmillen@newsfeeds.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:10:49 +0200, "Stephen F."
> <ferguson@NOJUNKbluewin.ch> wrote:
>>Next time you're in for service just ask if the engine management has the
>>latest program version. It's a flashable ROM in the ECU. The service
>>tech
>>just plugs in the diagnostic computer and uploads the new software.
>>

> Thanks, Stephen.
>
> --
> All the best
> David Millen
> Xativa, Valencia
> www.fincacasablanca.com
> please reply in group
> if you have to email me, remove the obvious:
> davidtheobvious@millen.com



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Old 07-10-2005, 12:01   #9 (permalink)
kerry nicqulette
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Re: TDCi Easy to Stall

When i picked mine up i stalled it 3 times before even making it out of the
dealership!!!! Im a mechanic and are used to jumping in and out of
different cars all day but this really cought me out!

MC.

www.ffoc.co.uk aka FocusGhia2L

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"Mike" <notavailable@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for all the replies and info.
>
> Mike
>
>
> "Mike" <notavailable@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:d9mpm0$s1t$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>>I have just replaced my 1999 Focus 1.8 LX with a new Focus TDCI 115 (last
>>of old model). Initially I found it very easy to stall when setting off
>>from stationary and have not stalled it in the last week or two. However
>>today I was turning right into a very busy road with not many gaps and I
>>managed to stall it. This left me a foot into the main road and the car
>>behind nearly shunting me as he I guess was going to follow me out.
>>
>> I had the air con on and the car has now done 1450miles. Does any one
>> else have this problem or would like to comment. It could just be a
>> "different" driving experience but I drove a Golf TDi for around a week
>> and had no problems.
>>
>> Please reply to the group - Location North East UK.
>>
>>
>> Thanks - Mike
>>

>
>



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